Einlion Hi. Webnovel is planning to SEPARATE the ranking of FANFICS. You guys will have your own rankings meaning you will be top 1 in fanfiction category. Please be patient and wait for a few days. They are updating the app right now. They also decided to COMBINE both TRANSLATIONS and ORIGINALS ranking.

      TheBlips
      I really hope they will not combine translation and original ranking. Original novels are already hard to find, because they are buried in the sea of translated novels that get always more exposure. Recently they have already deleted original novel area on the app, instead fanfic gained their one and it's really unfair. I have not any objection to giving fanfic its section, but why do they delete original novels' section? @CKtalon

          scarlett1414 agree. They are giving fanfic so much exposures to the app yet original novels aren't trending for two months when they are well deserved.
          They haven't updated the mobile browser home page for two months. PC browser too.
          This will be the worst attempt or experiment whatever you say...if they try to merge the the original and translated novels ranking.
          However, what I think that the reason why it's happening because WN became butthurt on seeing that originals are now earning more than those translations.

            Einlion

            My only response is hallejujah.

            Fanfic should only show up when searched for as fanfic. Otherwise they should be invisible.

            Create your own story from start to stop before you voice as much as a whisper of a complaint that the world you decided to parasite from didn't give you the attention you failed to attain by your own means.

                StenDuring I see you are confident in your bigotry. That, however, does not make you right. It only makes you an asshole who throws out an argument that has no grounds to stand on based on nothing but your own subjective views. You aren't making a valid point; you're just being a cunt.

                    StenDuring You are treating the matter as if the story were just copy and pasted. That could not be further from the truth. The whole story is original and while the characters can be found in other works, they are properly introduced without the need of foreknowledge. Meaning, what is borrowed is actually very little.
                    Anyone creating content has the right to complain when it is observed that the work is made hard to find and it is not on you to take that away from others.

                        Nasu Idiots like this ignore the fact that many fictional worlds rely on existing lore to even function on a basic premise. The location of literally every place mentioned in something like Danmachi references existing mythos, just like each of the gods are similar to their counterparts. Even the races are those derived from existing fantasy, down to their basic physical attributes and culture. Almost all good fiction relies on existing fiction as a template to build a unique story as it is easier for the readers to follow than to make up something completely unique from the start that they may not even be receptive to. This StenDumping is just a pretentious bigot who thinks too highly of themselves without any justification whatsoever. Because of their bitterness, they adopt the stance that it is everyone else that is wrong, regardless of facts that even a kindergartener could be made aware of and understand.

                            Einlion I won't argue for him, but you must admit that fan-fiction stories have a legitimate unfair advantage over original novels. Here you guys are using highly popular, renown franchises for your novels and you're acting like you're being suppressed? Excuse me? Did I catch that correctly? Good lord.

                            Yes, all fiction is derived of other stuff and we've all been jacking each other's ideas since the beginning of literature, but you're not doing that. Don't confound yourself with them; you don't take concepts and breath new life in them by giving them a unique spin. You just wholesale take the whole damn thing and lightly reskin it. That's it. That's what a fan-fiction is. A fan-made story of someone else's creation, no matter how you may try spinning it.

                            You've put in effort to get where you are now, but it isn't the same effort original authors have had to make to reach where you're at. That's where some people like that guy get their superiority from; that they didn't rely on the easy route. They didn't lean on something already successful. People feel pride about that, but I doubt you'd understand atop the mountain, eh?

                            Must be nice having a massive, pre-established fanbase by default. I've seen a dozen fan-fiction novels blaze through 100K views with less than a dozen chapters written because they were fan-fiction novels of either DxD, Harry Potter, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Marvel, or DC material. A bunch of other stuff, too. It's absolutely crazy how fast people will jump on board for fan-fictions over some obscure original work by an author that hasn't proven him/herself yet.

                            Must be nice having all of the world building, world/fighting mechanics, politics, and an entire cast of already fleshed out characters to work with from the start, mhm? A world and cast that's already adored by the readership before you even started writing, no? Man, that sounds reaaal tough, man.

                            Many fan-ficitions don't make it to the top 100, but instead they dominate the lower rankings, far out of sight. They snuff out smaller, lesser-known works near the bottom instead. It's been happening for the longest, but I doubt you've ever noticed from up there, right? That's my two cents on your nonsense.

                            Write your fan-fiction; it's cool and everyone should not feel obliged to write anything they don't want to, but know that not all novels are born equal and seperating fan-fictions from originals is a merciful act.

                                FattyBai Did you not quite catch the issue here? His novel is ranking 6 but does not show up in either rankings. With over 1000 chapters you bring up the point of effort?
                                "you don't take concepts and breath new life in them by giving them a unique spin" Yes he is literally doing that. If you want to deny that by saying that it's a fanfiction then you get the causality wrong. The logical conclusion would be that his story has begun to transcend fanfiction. It is more of an overarching original/crossover novel.

                                    Nasu I'm gonna have to disagree with you there, mate. If it has its roots in another work that isn't his, it's a fan-fiction. He's not taking a unique spin on a previous work or concept; the author was the one who did that. He took world mythology and used it a unique way that separated it from what it based of off (gods from all mythologies descending upon the mortal world, among other things). Einlion took what the author created and ran off with it, that's it. Danmachi's shadow will always be there and that will always relegate it to the status as fan-fiction.

                                    It might be an unpopular opinion, but if you started with something that wasn't yours, it doesn't become yours just because you added a mountain of paint on it. You can reference off of stuff you like, but you gotta start from pure scratch for it to be original.

                                    Edit: Your response comes off funny as hell considering whom you've chosen as your account name.

                                        FattyBai I like how ignorant you are yet how prideful you flaunt it. If the only thing a fanfic needed to be successful was picking a popular franchise, the vast majority of fanfics wouldn't be considered terrible. I pointed out exactly what was going on and if you are too lost in your own small world to understand that, why the hell would you even bother to comment at all?

                                        Once again, this whole paragraph just shows your awe-inspiring level of ignorance. You have no idea what you're talking about at all, just spewing whatever you want without consideration for context. I recycled no plots and made more than 30 unique characters, building on a world that had virtually no details revealed since I wanted to make a unique and interesting story. But, your fucking lizard-sized brain just discredits all of that because, as I said, you are just an ignorant twat spewing platitudes as if they had any basis in fact.

                                        I like how each new paragraph for you is just emphasizing the fact you have absolutely no understanding of what you're talking about. You know nothing of the amount of effort people put into things, as you are so lost in your own tiny world that you simply live by the assumptions and bias you have formed. Since you are incapable of creative thinking, something even elementary schoolers are required to display, you simply refuse to look at the facts and continue to spew asinine drivel without regards for even the most basic semblance of decency.

                                        I take it back, you don't simply emphasize it, you reinforce the idea every time you start a new paragraph. It's like you got progressively more upset as you continued typing your bullshit, to the point that you genuinely believe you made a point by the end of your ridiculous claims. Did some Fanfiction writer beat you up or something? Where does all this hatred and negativity stem from? Will you, if given the chance, make an actual point based on the context presented and not your own contrived bias? That seems highly unlikely, as is often the case with bigoted oafs that jump into a conversation to do nothing but spread negativity without providing a single meaningful contribution.

                                        Must be nice making even more assumptions. Too bad being an incompetent asshole won't get you any prizes in life. I can only imagine the series of events that led to you becoming so unbelievably salty that the only way you can express yourself is to make baseless and fundamentally flawed claims as if they do anything other than present to the world that you are an ass.

                                        So, you're blaming me for working hard and trying to be successful by lumping me together with a group of people you seem inherently biased against? You're essentially saying I'm wrong for simply wanting to write a story as practice to improve my abilities as an author, just because you can't find a buttplug big enough to prevent your ass from bleeding out? Do you think I hacked the fucking website and put my novel into the top rankings or something? You think I got there with no effort, when your own retarded ass points out that most don't even make it into the top 100? You are fucking hopeless dude. This goes beyond 'nonsense', you are functionally a baboon just throwing shit at people for whatever fucking reason your tiny opinionated brain contrived.

                                        I have no problem with separating genres, as that wasn't even the point of the fucking post to begin with. I even pointed out that I didn't even mind the separation though, much like almost everything you fucking said, you just ignored context to make your own arbitrary points. The issue was that the website itself no longer even fucking showed the novel listed at all, meaning you would have to have the phone app (something most people don't even use) to be able to find the novel. If you can't understand why someone would be upset that they are suddenly obscured from their own readership after writing a 3.6m word story, you are truly fucking hopeless. Seriously, dude, what the fuck is your problem to get so riled up over something that had LITERALLY nothing to do with you? What compels you to be a cunt on the internet instead of providing a single fucking piece of useful and contributable information to a conversation that you didn't even have to get involved with? You need to get some help.

                                            FattyBai Give ONE FUCKING EXAMPLE of how I used what the author created and ran with it. I didn't even use the same basic fucking plot you daft cunt. Nobody has argued that its not a fanfiction, you are just arguing that your own pretentious view is correct, REGARDLESS of a wealth of evidence against it. Jesus fucking christ, it's like you're the physical manifestation of the Anti-Vaxxers will to be ignorant.

                                              So a fanfic is not ok but a recycled plot where you can just copy and paste character names in is ok? Makes sense. Cause most of the top power stone stories for translation and "original" are pretty much copy and paste plots that everybody has read dozens of times already. At least ppl writing fanfic say that they are using somebody elses work as a base.

                                              Einlion
                                              First off: you are a cunt for calling other people a cunt, that's not a way to prove your point, nobody curses you in this chat, it was all you who whines and curse other people like a whiny baby.

                                              Second: When you lump Mythologies into Fanfiction, you are a very manipulative and disingenuous person, Mythologies means myth that belongs to a religion or culture, It's a shared culture.

                                              Third: Fanfictions means nothing, it means you are just a fan and you copied other's people work and insert your own delusional character, you can twist the story in whichever way you like, that doesn't mean you work hard to create anything, you steal the world-building, characters and plotline, you just insert your character into an established world so fanfictions are just copy cats,

                                              Fourth: No matter how bad the fanfiction story is, they will always gain attraction because of their existing fanbase and popularity, which makes it easier for fanfiction writers to gain fame and establish a large fanbase which they don't deserve.

                                              I didn't want to write this but your behavior is unacceptable and the way how you tried to manipulate the conversation and sound righteous almost make me puke.

                                              This thread should have been simple questions and answers, As TheBlips said, the Webnovel team is working on the fanfiction ranking system, you could have gone in a different route and ask in a nicer way, maybe people would have supported you, there are tons of fanfiction writers in this website, you guys can demand to this website in a reasonable way.

                                              But no, because you sit in a top 10 ranking so you feel like you are some kind of big shot and start cursing other people and trying to manipulate the conversation into your favor by comparing fanfiction into mythologies.
                                              Maybe fame has got over your head and you have become blind sighted.

                                              Grow up kid, with that personality, you won't last long.

                                              If you continue to curse expect some lash back, don't think you can get away with anything just because of your little fame.

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