Miya no... the complaint come because the stone increase is too much... before system change... 4 stones to current 18 stones(highest i have seen)... this mean sudden 4.5 times increase... IRL you will also yell if thing you usually bought increase multifold in price in a fortnight...

In my opinion... QI should have use 4 stone for BETA price... or at least capped at 9 stones (people freak out when see 2 digit stones)... this is to let people integrate first with new system... and then slowly evaluate and raise stone until it reach balance between reader demand and translator / QI needs... this way most people will accept it better than this current method...

This is like suddenly got bitten by lion... of course you will run... but if you are bitten by small leech... you will not even realize it... until it suck lots of your blood...

      Positive_Lullaby And that is the the difference between patreon and premium. In patreon, us free readers could enjoy the full content released, while the ones that supported could read ahead. With premium the guys that support will read what they read previously for free, while the free readers will have to aucknit up and read less. This change will lower the traffic they get on their website because free readers won't come as frequently to check for updates, so in the long run I don't know which will be more generic

      Tl;dr
      Us free readers got dumped on with the premium, and the people paying are paying for an illusion that they are reading ahead while.they are just reading the same they read before4

        Estriole That change was big too, because we get between 17-24 SS daily, that is a premium chapter and some change. In the future when there are more premium novels you will only be able to follow 1-2 (small chapters) novels to the the most recent chapter without paying anything

          Well, I know some translation (staff teams) make upwards of $30,000 USD per month. And they split it between 4 people. Then they pump out 15 weekly chapters per week. And once a month they'll dump 50 bonus chapters (because they're making so much cash in patreon). - Those LN's have over 100,000 supporting them (and read there chapters every day. So basically if a book has a huge enough fan base, even if it's just $1 USD per month (with 30% of the people donating), there's a huge market to rush out chapters.

          However, I've seen those same teams have a basic mental break after a yearish or so. (They basically burn themselves out really quick) - So major depression is a big kick in the balls with that much pressure to pump out chapters.

            DarkImmortal_Intel

            Like one example, a small 2 man translation team was making $3,000 a month (50$ per chapter early release). And finished a short story (350ish chapter LN that was amazing - in maybe 3-4 months time). Felt bad because they literally quit translating after that book. Hahaha.

                Estriole so you're saying Qi should have been more gradual with their spirit stone increase but still go in for the kill eventually?
                I'd rather know what's coming at me than suffering a slow death, it just seems that much more coarse

                    Self control is needed no matter what. Just don't spend money you don't have on something like this. Go to library to get some kicks while waiting for em to be available will do.

                      natto Ok let me explain the difference to you. Lets take a look at Qi system;

                      Lets take Immortal Mortal for example.

                      24 chs/week release rate
                      7 chs/week for free

                      24 - 7 = 17ch

                      So every week 17ch will be added into the premium pool. Immortal Mortal started with 10 premium chapters. After a week there will be 27 premium chapters. Next week that will become 44... After 3 months you will be 214 chapters behind premium readers. Understand the system?

                      Now lets look at patreon;

                      You will be behind a fixed number of chapters behind the paying people. The number will never grow. If they are giving out 10 chapters early access, then it will always stay as 10 chapters. You will never be behind more than that 10 chapters. It won't grow to hundreds of chapters like in Qi system. Understand the difference?

                      You can stop paying for patreon any time you want, but if you start reading premium chapters in Qi, you better not stop till the end of the novel. Because once you stop, it will take months for free chapters to catch up to the point you are at and it will be pointless that you payed to unlock chapters to that point. So if you start unlocking premium chapters, you better be ready to keep doing it till the end of the novel...

                          N0xiety good explanation. That's exactly what I dislike about QI's system. Either you are a leecher or you are a whale who can spam the unlock button, but the ppl who occasionally wanna spent some money are totally being disregarded in this system

                            "whale" is kinda out of proportion, I'll ballpark immortal mortal at about 25ish bucks if what I've heard of it being about 1200ish chapters long ? that sounds about fair for a book, far as microtransaction goes that's on the dirty cheap side of things, whales are people that spend tens of thousands bucks/month and upward from there.

                            That aside, partial spending would still be feasible, N0xiety, because even if one wouldn't want to buy spirit stones anymore, there is still the check in bonus, so at minimum advancing one premium chapter a day is possible.

                              ciopo But then what was even the point of reading to that point by unlocking the chapters? If you are gonna stop, you might just as well wait for free chapters from start and read 1 free chapter per day. If you are gonna start unlocking tho, stopping isn't a good idea since it would be pretty much pointless. You better have the conviction to keep unlocking untill the novel reaches it's end...

                                natto let's have sex (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

                                    and now i regret unlock RTW premium chapter. premium chapter is just like blackhole to your spirit stone. once you join premium, you lose your right to get free chapter, every new chapter will become premium chapter, and if you want to stop, you need to wait till the free reader catch up to you.
                                    its okay if its just 10 chapter, you can still wait for free reader, but based on the calculation there will be hundreds of premium chapter in a month and maybe thousand in a year. can you wait that long ? i think its better to stop now and just become free reader, its not worth it. its a black hole

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