Darth_Xiane I just gave causal suggestions. thanks for your opinion. please note: I don't have any compliment about the membership, I just gave an opinion to make it look more "valuable".
Addressing Your Complaints (Coins, Fast Passes, etc.)
Why do you feel inclined to pay or even read these novels that you think have unsuitable grammar for you? If you have high standards for quality (like I do), then most locked novels have 60-100, if not even more, free chapters for you to read and decide if you like the quality enough. If it's not good enough, then don't pay for it and find better novels to read! Simple!
This is the only point I have to argue against.
Why do I feel inclined to pay for those novels of poor translation quality? Because as much as the translation quality sucks donkey balls, through it I see a diamond of a story. If any old book at all will do your suggestion has merit but as I pointed out in one of the other threads, what is the point of suggesting other books if I wanted to read Harry Potter, those other books may have similar themes, but they are not Harry Potter.
To use the earlier restaurant example, you go to a shop proporting the only genuine type of cuisine in your area, you go having tasted it yourself abroad. When the meal is served, its undercooked and presented in a similar fashion to dumping it in an animal feed bag. Should you just take it cause hey its food, any food will do right? Who cares that it's a food you've tried before and come to love and because you're paying the server should give it to you in any shape right? I mean you can go anywhere for food right, sure it's not what you want but that doesnt matter a wit in a service industry. Right?
Otherwise a great post just #7 rubs me wrong.
I guess WN didn't do this change easily and it will have major repercussions to the business model. Why?
Basically, I agree with others here. The quality of the novels isn't always the greatest. 10k words of content isn't as valuable as 10k words of a proper re-re-re-edited published novel on paper. But it was entertaining to say the least.
With the new system, as the thread author said, it is the reader's fault for reading merely entertaining but low quality material. Thus readers will be a lot more picky. Authors/translators/editors will have to deliver a higher quality if they still want people to read their work. Let's see what happens there in the future.
Yeah I still prefer supporting authors and translators directly via patreon or on more transparent and reader friendly novel sites
Please expire fast pass in a month time. :)
Honestly, points 6 and 7 are fine individually, but combined is where it really bothers people. Stop comparing non-traditional publishers (Webnovel, Radish, Amazon self-publishing, J-Novel Club) to traditional publishers (like Penguin Random House, publishers who actually hire editors and not just proofreaders). People call chapter by chapter publishing an elaborate draft because it is! Any traditional editing will remove incongruent chapters/arcs to improve the story flow, request rewrites of additional details to connect arcs better, and proofread! Non-traditional tends to only proofread (if that). So stop comparing prices to physical books and ebooks by traditional publishers. The appropriate comparison should be other non-traditional publishers such as Amazon self-publishing where it's generally $3-4 for 100k-200k words, and prolific authors who write in the same universe generally do have the first book in the series free. Any additional amount should be called an impatience fee.
The_Good_Devil then let's think about it and give actual examples. left shop may have phones that cost 500, but the right shop STEALS the phones from the left shop and sells it for cheaper. and everyone in the public knows that the right shop can't produce a single phone and can only steal from the left shop. to those who support the right shop-- should they not be shamed?
besides, this scenario can't even apply b/c phones are not equal to webnovels & digital content. unlike in real world, where left shop can just sue the right shop and take it down the market, the pirate sites are 1) masking their info so the dmcas can't be filed properly, and 2) stealing not from just a big company but rather from the employees (aka the original authors, translators, and editors). if you want a very unrealistic real world example (like the phone one you provided), this is the same as a minimum wage worker going home on from the way to work & getting mugged half their paycheck every single month. sure, this may not happen every month, but this is what your support of piracy is doing to the pay of the authors.
Darth_Xiane i'm a bit confused i think you misunderstood my point haha.
my point this entire time was that people were saying that they should receive wns for free b/c the quality is so terrible. everyone has different standards of reading, some are grammar nazis, others only care about the story. and depending on your tastes, you should be able to pick and choose which stories you want to pay for b/c of the free chapters provided. and if you are only paying for grammar/quality (as some of these people have said), then there are definitely plenty of novels with better quality that you can pay for on this platform (hence my words of don't pay for it and find better novels).
I don't think your food example works in this scenario. a better example would be someone wanting to try out a local food, reading reviews for it online, and seeing beforehand that it's low quality. then they would avoid paying for or eating it in the first place... or the restaurant provided some free samples (cough my fav yogurt places), and when you tasted it, you found that you didn't like certain flavors so you didn't buy it... kind of like how before you read a webnovel, you have reviews to read to see how the translation quality is at even in locked chapters, and you have free samples (free chapters) to read to see how it is.
anyways I'm a bit confused at what you're saying. I can kind of see our point that reading for plot/characters is important too, but I think you've read that one post out there that was like "I'm going to go read at pirate sites b/c wn's quality is trash so I'm not going to pay any money for it". do you agree with that person? can't remember but I think I remember seeing your post on that thread. b/c if so, I really have no words. I just think that it's kind of dumb for people to expect that the only thing they're paying for is grammar quality, not content? and that if a story has bad grammar, then they are entitled to think that they can get said story for free?
i'm confusing myself now lol
yaoyueyi thanks for the info, but how do i file a complaint? I did purchase the 1st month special membership but i didn't get the 500 coins? And i think i did right with the tagged complaints i guess
Toje this is the answer they wrote back tome
Dear,
we temporarily cancelled the exemption and restriction after January 5th. Please understand. Thank you for your support.
understand what ??????
And i don't think it's temporarily
Thank you for constantly sending them emails and updating us. Let us see after the update then...
yaoyueyi
I just want to say my thoughts about the new updates of webnovel, i dont love how the new update works, from what i think its better than the previous update since i can purchase the chapters/stories by coins/ spirit stones and get them unlocked WITHOUT TIME LIMIT which is more better than fast pass (please dont judge me this is what my thoughts are) since it has an EXPIRATION which really is eeehhh... and for a person like me i like to stack my stories for a month and with the fast pass, its not helping at all. And here i was expecting for a membership (i dont know whats the name for it) for it but disappoints but understandle. I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NEW UPDATES PLEASE DONT TAKE IT FOR CRITICISM OR SUCH. THANK YOU
Toje omg!!! What do they mean "temporarily cancelled the exemption and restriction after January 5th"??? I purchased the membership on January 5 and i didn't get the 500 coins nor the daily 310 coins
what to do?!! Can I atleast get a refund if im not going to get them???
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PinkKookieBunny so funny, did you read the conversation from the beginning? from whom he/she reply? what question for that reply/answer? does it related to the membership at all? don't panic as panic always make people misread
yaoyueyi Well, let me add my personal opinion here.
With everyone complaining about the reality of the world that nothing is free, I think that this whole update (that didn't change much in terms of the amount you can read) is directed in a super-hidden way, to improve the situation of the pirate sites. Just look at this:
People will complain and leave for pirate sites.
Pirate sites will get the spike in income
Suying the pirates will turn out to be either profitable or at least allow WN to break even at the cost of the process
Someone will go to jail with few millions $ of debt (basically, even if just a single copyright infringement costs 50k$, multiply it by every single book they stole)
Other people will have to think twice before risking life in prison for stealing.
Piracy dying out
Free readers will have to either go back to reading at paid sites or stop reading altogether.
PS: but thats just my silly opinion :D
Finally! An explanation posted! After how many weeks! rolleyes at WN
Thanks for the detailed explanation!
yaoyueyi the shop keeper ( stealer or pirate) who should feel ashamed. not the customers. our only concern is where to find the best service with the lowest price and good quality. should we work with the pirate and get his services for free? or should we work with the good people and that will at least cost us 10$ a day and 300$ a month( because we are dedicated as you put it ) at this point I really started to wonder who is the "real" pirate is? is that the "bad" people who provide us with our Addiction is the pirate or is it the "good" people who cost us money to provide the same services as the bad guy?
please note: that I started the argument and wouldn't back off easily, also sorry for crossing the bottom line but I couldn't hold back. and thank you for reading my reply 
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