lozlo But nobody is making excuses that it's okay for Webnovel to ignore DMCA? Who ever said that? Cantiara did not, she merely mentioned that the legal process was more complicated than you made it out to be, and that it wasn't a simple "Webnovel stole the translations!" thing. That in no way meant "it's all right for Webnovel to ignore DCMA!"
And if you're referring to MotivatedSloth, he never said it's all right for Webnovel to ignore DMCA either. He's expressing his annoyance at people who go to pirate sites and read his work for free - work that he put hours of effort into working, and him being in serious need of cash, he relies on his writing to make a living (that might not be a good idea, but it is what it is). Of course he would be furious when people advocate going to pirate sites to read his work just because "Webnovel is unaffordable or too expensive!" If you can't afford it, then don't read. it doesn't justify you running off to steal his work and benefiting from the entertainment he provides while giving him nothing in return. Take note, he will not complain if you decides that his work isn't worth the money, or if you choose not to pay for it and read it. He is complaining about his work being pirated.
But nobody has ever said it's all right for Webnovel to ignore DMCA.
If you made a site, and people pirate the novels from here on your site, and take them down, only for people to repost them a couple of days later, the writers will send you the DMCA and ask you to take it down again. Not blame you. How the f are you responsible for what people post on your site? Obviously writers are going to give you, the site owner, the benefit of the doubt - and take note, legally wise you are not responsible for what people post on your site. Not unless those people are your employees or agents, and unless we can prove that they are working for you, no one can hold you legally responsible for it. Not only is that how the law works, that's also bloody common sense. Not unless you make a claim that you personally run checks (or hire people to do so) on each and every work that people post on your site, or you confess to having hired people to steal works from other sites and post it on your site. If people choose to steal and reupload on your site, then that's on them, not you the site owner. What part of this logic do you not understand? You admit that you don't know the particulars for what happens on Amazon, but you do not seem to deny the validity of my example regarding it.
Also, I don't get your prison and parent example, because it makes no bloody sense. Again, the writers here on Webnovel are NOT Webnovel. The original authors on this site are genuine writers who do not pirate. What you are essentially doing is generalizing and judging all authors on Webnovel, regardless of what they write, as pirates. Like how did you come to that conclusion? Because a few bad eggs did it, then all writers on Webnovel - by virtue of their association - are automatically pirates, and thus it is hypocritical for us to complain about being plagiarized? Let me use your prison and parent example then - so if I get assaulted by a criminal, I am not allowed to report the criminal to the police because my child has assaulted another victim? By virtue of my child having assaulted others, I should suck it up and let people assault me even though I'm not my child and did not commit the crime my child did? And if I get assaulted, I should suck it up and not complain about it or report it because my child did it? What kind of logic is that?
So if my child is a murderer, it's all right for someone else's child to murder me and I have no right to protest against that at all? Because that is exactly what you're saying here.
I don't even know what the whole beer or liquor thing is or what it has to do with anything. What's better than what? What's the same as what but look different? What are you even trying to prove with this analogy?
