Glad to see the great discussions and information being shared.

The biggest thing I've learned is that everything can more or less be attributed to a system fundamentally grounded in greed/profit where self expression is only secondary. A system where word-count = money is flawed for the consumer. different culture different trends.

I think everyone honestly knows that there are almost no eastern novels(Korean/Chinese/Japanese) that DON"T have any instances of repetition or rephrasing, or they will have a loop they follow and the other commonly seen patterns that are not commonly found in western fiction (NOT saying these make inherently non-entertaining novels something doesn't have to be groundbreaking to be enjoyable. ex. Library of heavens path is literally the EXACT same story loop AT EVERY ARC/SEQUENCE yet its still one of the novels that I find quite funny and entertaining to read) but if you think "why is this the case" it makes sense with the simple phrase "word-count = money" thus things will be this way and they most likely won't change. You could I guess make the argument that if your going to market towards western cultures/english speaking cultures you should adopt a policy that would be used by them but you could make the argument that the market is there home turf so..

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CJofNJ

Gamblejay

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              Gamblejay Except those books aren't priced on their word count. These novels contain so much unneeded drivel just to drive that word count up while real authors try to bring their word count down so there's less fluff and more story. If you want to compare 1 million words in these books with 1 million words on these web novels then you're already doing it wrong because the words aren't worth the same amount of story. One fight in BTTH takes like 5-7 chapters, random enlightenment for 2-4 chapters each, and then there's the explanations from side characters about every little thing that people don't care about.

                Gamblejay The problem is you are expecting westerners to be sold on a Chinese business model. This site isn't targeted toward Chinese users.

                    Krazyguy75 Everyone that I've seen who says they hate the system brags about how they refuse to buy SS. So there isn't really a loss there anyways.

                        CJofNJ And thats how business works. There is a targeted audience, is Qidian going for full seats or are they trying to meet a quota to pay everyone and keep board members happy?

                        If they can sell 20 $200 books as compared to 100 $5 books I think I know which business model I'd take and which audience I'd focus on.

                            Dragolax I’m tempted to just learn to read Mandarin at this point, so I can skip over all this translating bs with the Raws.

                                BigLeagueWeeb First off I'm not the one who threw Harry Potter out as a comparison. I just decided to prove a point. Secondly I'm not going to keep repeating myself by explaining what subjective means. YOU may find it drivel, not everyone does so it's not a baseline to use for a debate.

                                No the problem is you want them to conform to your needs. Which is fine and most businesses will/should do some form of it. But you don't walk into a Chinese Restaurant and then throw your hands up when there are no beef burgers because that's what you're use to. No you're there for Chinese food.

                                Everyone keeps pointing out that Qidian is/will Lose money. Yet every action and snippet they have taken or posted says things are on track... because the model and price hasn't changed. These people are very smart when it comes to business, they run a successful multi-million dollar company in China.

                                Things won't topple over and fail, if the price isn't working... It will drop. But it hasn't and more premium novels continue to come out. So, do you take the advice of a few unhappy people or follow the actions of the company?

                                    Gamblejay Just like how China cares about other countries or people hardworks. Plagiarism is a common thing in China and when others do the same thing, its a crime and not supporting those who are behind the project. Yeah sure.

                                        h3national If you read anything i posted rather then cherry picking I already pointed that out and said reading free is fine and doesn't make someone less of a fan. But if you do want to support the project, this is the platform the Author has chosen.

                                            Gamblejay time will tell,no matter how hard qidian claim ppl like this kind of payment . If less ppl stop buying , they will still go to floor anyway,

                                                Shaff which is why he said that market will determine the price, pricing strategies are complex man

                                                    Fuhrer 25ss per day

                                                    Check-in + second check-in (ad and mobile only) + energy and power stone vote = min. 24 SS max. 40 SS

                                                    You should get on average way more. Did you maybe forget one of the SS earning ways? I am just curious, who knows you might be unluckiest person on this platform. :D

                                                        Altera011 Source/Link to the thread, please.
                                                        Pretty sure that person just doesn't know all methods to earn SS.

                                                            Ebu8b some devices aren't compatible with the app, so they can't earn from watching ads.

                                                            Gamblejay if I walk into a Chinese restaurant and the White rice is selling at $10 a pint and I can get basmati rice at the Indian place next door for $5 a quart, you can be sure that I'm walking out. If I really need that entree, then fine, I'll shell out for only the entree and buy the side of rice next door and make sure to never go to that restaurant again

                                                                  I go to buy spirit stones and now the $10 deal for 1500 spirit stones only gets you 600?! What a rip off. I'm done with Qidian's scummy practices.

                                                                    Gamblejay

                                                                    Do you know when and why they changed the pricing? It was at a fair, dare I say generous, price before.

                                                                        ZeroAspect The pricing far as I know had always been based on word count. We had the Ads before but it wasn't sustainable.

                                                                        So some will write long chapters which means more stones per chapter. Some have shorter which means less.

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