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fantasybliss30 What a beautifully heartfelt yet naively ignorant message.

Mate, I appreciate the concern. I really do. I can tell that you want to somehow put your few cents and push the agenda of letting people write what they should...

But the facts are unforgiving.
- Most of the writers here are newbies. Writing dumb stories is far easier to write them.
- Webnovel is aimed at a momentary interest, forcing the authors to cut the story into parts digestable within a single chapter. Make the story too deep, and you won't be able to properly push anything forward withing a single chapter, making the story less appealing
- Overall, readers are much more inclined to reading dumb stories. They are not here to think. They are here to relax while putting themselves in the shoes of OP protagonist with a harem of horney and empty girls.
- The deeper and better written the story is, the greater the chances people will drop it. You can't write a proper novel and keep it webnovel-style. Those two are completely different mediums, forcing you to choose between things. WIthout build-up, you won't have great scenes. With buildup, you will bore the readers.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't write ambitious novels. But in the real world, if they want the early recognition to keep them going on, to keep them on the path of writing that seems to be easy but is extremely taxing in the long run, writing overly ambitious projects without basic skills, knowledge and practice can only lead to a disaster.

Saw it happening many times over. While there is a chance someone is just born incredibly talented and may succeed Brandon Sanderson in the future for example, I would much rather put my bet on something that depends on my own efforts to learn and grow rather the minuscule possibility of just being born the right way.

      I won't call our stories dumb. Even the most usual stories about one of us leaving to the grocer beside our home, encountered a goddess, got into a fight for her, turned into a gunfight, I've found out that I am actually a sleeping agent, then noticed she was one too, we got back into my home, I embarrassedly tidy my burrow, she was inclined with my simplicity, we got into the blanket together, and ten years later, we're still doing it like a rabbit, can be made into a great story.

      Reading is experience, savoring them is like training and building your mind. Good and bad is just a bottom line of acceptance in our head. Read, not complain. Enjoy, not demanding, this way, I'm sure everyone will feel appreciated.

      And motivated sloth, please continue your book would ya? Mass release plz

        yungsern87 Which one? If you are speaking about the Genius Mage, I was just too sleepy to write it yesterday but will write 2 chaps for it today to not have a bad record

          MotivatedSloth I like to disguise important things as dumb shit and watch readers complain about how dumb it is. Of course that led me to losing more than a few readers, but I think it's worth it in the long run.

              Whycanti Honestly losing readers is never worth it. When new readers come to that dumb shit they will probably drop it also. So who will continue reading your new chapters?

              Take this from the king of dumb shit in novels.

                  Zero_Things the way I write doesn't allow for people to shut their brains and go on. I want them to ask why I put something like that in and go "oh! So that's why!" Once it all makes sense later on. Maybe the worst example of this is the title of my ongoing book which sounds like clickbait once one starts to read but its true meaning has yet to be revealed🤣

                      What is a dumb story? And who would tell someone else to write a dumb story?

                      Not sure of the original context. In literal context, wouldn't dumb mean to not being able to speak or express anything at all? So if I was told to write a dumb story, I'm being told to not write one? :expressionless: Isn't that kind of... head explodes from analysis paradox. 🤯

                      I can only guess that this post was related to something about cliché books from new writers. If we're talking about ranking books here, they know how to convince readership by the masses even if a story concept has been recreated millions of times in various ways. So, I don't agree that these stories lack in quality because readers have already judged their worth with verbatim, votes and coins by the truck loads.

                      Also, many new writers are recent supporters for the clichés they are writing. So, of course they're going to attract a like minded following because their story is fresh of a trend, and mimicking what they have currently read. I don't think this lacks in quality at all. To mimic a popular story and gain the same amount of ranking is actually pretty cool.

                      Now, a writer like me can be considered having niche shit, as a small few of blessed souls have taken a chance on my tales and given me props for creating a story that they consider of an artisan quality. Still, because I don't get any new readership, my stories can't be commercialized. Why? Because commercial potential is perceived by a reader majority.

                      If a story attracts a minority it's considered niche. Niche is for the artisans who already know that they will have it tough. Because minority readers are most often silent readers; those that just want to appreciate the one good story then move on.

                      So, in short, authoring will always attract one of two options:

                      1. Write a cookie cutter story that most readers want to read and have it commercialized. The ideal author path for monetary benefits.
                      2. Hone a story according to artistic desires and struggle to find an audience, 99 percent of times earn nothing but self satisfaction. This allows for artistic expression to be unhindered.

                      Note: At some point, every developing writer will hit the niche wall as they begin to experiment on their ideas and experiences.

                      Ever read The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System? This pretty sums up an author's dilemma of writing to the masses vs writing to their artistic desires.

                      Edit: Gah this ended up TL;DR

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                        Jewels_the_weeb Any chinese, japanese or korean characters. 'Words' is more used in chinese and Japanese Kanji, which is a shared dictionary. Each character generally constitutes as one 'word'.

                        I don't know much about the korean language so it don't know if this is a shared concept, but they do count each character as a figurative word.

                            Veronica8
                            I did read a little bit of the scum villain’s self-saving system and it was not as bad as the reviews said. Also FYI I am MXTX fan for life, TGCF fan for life and MDZS fan for life. And they are NOT dumb stories. they are possibly the best webnovels i have ever read. :D

                              Ellora25 My my! So can't I give my characters Chinese names other than using Chinese words? T-T

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