I agree. Most web-novels and even light novels start off with a reincarnated person that's supposed to be some kind of shut-in or social outcast, and the first thing they do is meet a benevolent God who grants them a cheat ability and get overpowered almost immediately.

It cuts out a lot of the tension, period, and they never lose a battle. Not only that, but they supposedly get really good relationships with girls and ladies for no reason, despite the fact that they're supposed to be people who were never really capable of having friends.

There's seriously a large amount of cliches to be found with those kinds of stories, and I did write my current webnovel as an attempt to divert those common themes, as hard as that is. I'm hoping I'm doing it right at the very least...

Sadly those cliches and things are well-received.
Novels which have those cliches (or some of them) are very high in the rankings and that is undeniable.

    It depends on context really. If a cliche is overused, sure it's boring. But there are some authors, that purposely use these, to evoke a change in their character. Spoilers for ISSTH

    ISSTH made Meng Hao start from the bottom to become strong, which is the originator of cliches to be honest. Then at the later stages, it shows how he feels grief, he becomes a mortal, and finally after reaching the top, becoming indifferent to the changes that occur. After a few years of watching his friends die one by one, he finally achieves enlightenment. It really captures the struggle he goes through, even though he has all that power, he in the end, can't stop his friends from suffering t.

    So in short. Authors need to be given time, to show people that their MCs can evolve. It just needs time and the audience needs to have the patience to go through the end with them.

    But just my 2cents.

    I read novels just for a little entertainment, unless the novel is REALLY GOOD and interesting, giving me motivation to read it with love, I don't want the MC to have any flaws or lose fights (even more so in cultivation novels, where that fight would be insignificant for the future MC).

    Everyone wants to be their friends, seriously, if they exist, even if they give me the opportunity I would never be willing to be friends of one of those hypocrite and arrogant MCs.

    KingBiBiK i would wait until ur book has 100 chaps so i can binge it but until then i think u should do a parallel earth with many diferent cultures
    also since there is dark energy and stuff watch these two videos to find out which kind of magic system u want
    hard magic system :

    soft magic system :

    they're just 10 minute videos

        One thing to keep in mind about webnovels authors is they never get a chance to write a first draft of an entire book, review it, create a second draft, send it to people to review, then have it edited, etc. Having 2-3 years to ponder over a book before releasing it.

        They have to release chapter after chapter with no time to stop. Many talented American authors work would be just as shoddy if they were subject to this. Kindle unlimited already has some authors putting out crappy books that pointlessly extends plotlines for word count.

        There are alot of ways to make MC stronger.....
        Like having companions dying and MC blames himself/herself for being too weak and then he/she trains like mad
        Then revenge......
        And having parents die/captured/mother rped cause too beautiful and GF rped and killed friends killed everyone he knows get killed and he vows to take revenge.....
        Then he becomes stronger
        By getting stronger he meets more enemies and friends
        Then his/her new/old enemies kills new friends then he/she gets more stronger and try to kill his/her enemies
        just telling the consequences of being weak
        dont reply :/

          And if you want MC weak and friends weak then by the power of friendship they get stronger and theyre kinda immortal cause somehow their enemies cant kill them no matter what they do if this kind of thing is your cup of tea

          Then good luck finding this 1
          or maybe u can write a novel yourself that you are satisfied with and read it yourself XD

            bandicoot879 I lost you when you gave SH and LOHP as examples. Is this whole post supposed to be a joke? You want web novels with better character development and story writing, but then you give those examples as the 'good ones'. It's hard to take you seriously...

                Im just kidding ._. (Maybe)
                Just ignore my comments above
                I am totally just kidding (this is not sarcasm) (well maybe) :3

                  bandicoot879 Thanks for the videos. It helps.
                  I am using real world reference, but I don't want to use the modern world without proper knowledge of it. So, I am planning to use future world or a parallel system really similar to modern Earth. Just the countries will be different and in some places culture. Let's see, I have a week to decide on this.

                  The major world building happens in the second world where the MC came from in the prologue.

                  Thanks for your compliment.
                  I am glad that you liked the beginning. I was worried that it will bore people since it is different from the usual beginning where the story and characters and introduced on the very first page to hook people.

                  (I hope I get time to continue this to reach 100 chapters. The pace I am going now is....sigh..)

                      What you have to remember is that webnovels are written entirely by one person and maybe an editor for grammar. One guy can only account for so much so they tend to focus on the mc. It's incomparable to real novels and stories which have entire teams working on it and fine tuning the world. Try some of the manhua and anime based on the books. They usually add some substance to side characters and plot in general. i generally prefer them to the webnovels.

                      Commenting so I can come back here for the links .

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