Piokilek Eh? What are you talking about? I wasn't talking about a cut from the royalty fees, but from the privilege fees. You claimed that the translators don't get anything from those "advance chapters". Those advance chapters are going to be or are already funded from the privilege fees. Privilege fees is not equal to royalty fees. Royalty fees indeed belong to the authors and may or may not include the privilege fees, it depends on the license agreement relating to the intangible in question. Authors may get a cut from the privilege fees as a part of their royalty fees, but it doesn't mean that translators should not be getting any cuts from those privilege fees.

Anyway, I already read a post on another thread by @CKtalon that translators do get a fair share from the Privilege fees. So your argument is invalid. You're just making things more confusing.

      WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL but i can't read it even though its still free. The locked chapters cant be unlocked too because the priviledge chapters keep showing/ pop up..😂😂😂even though i have SS...

        Cantiara @Piokilek is viewing it from an author's viewpoint. The idea is that the translators are already paid a flat fee for their work, so they shouldn't deserve more, but the way the web novel translation industry has developed is a little different, mainly being how web novels are very long and that they are serialized.

        Translators are paid to do chapters, but they aren't incentivized to do more than they need, so if they are expected to do 10/week, they do 10/week. Of course, doing more allows them to get paid more, but some of them think of this more as a part-time job instead of a full-time job. Or, they just do enough to make ends meet, and enjoy the rest of their free time. Various reasons. But this 'slow' speed affects reader enjoyment, so there's definitely a need for some mechanism to incentivize them.

        Then, Webnovel allows translators to choose to switch to a royalty scheme. In theory, if a book is doing well, a royalty scheme will give money to the translator for work done years ago, and there's potential to earn more than a fixed rate. Of course, releasing more will also increase the amount earn, since they are now paid when the chapter actually is paid by readers and not when it's submitted to Webnovel (flat rate pay). But then comes the problem, that not all books are very profitable. Some might even be a loss compared to the flat rate pay because the book just isn't popular. Hence, to not 'gamble', some people just stick to flat rate.

        Privilege is in a way to give those who absolutely want to read ahead at whatever cost that option. This Privilege money earned is now split between the translator, author, and Webnovel without a need to switch to a royalty contract, so it will boost earnings for the translator during the course of the book's serialization release. The hope is that this will incentivize translators further to keep constant release rates and also build a stockpile.

            CKtalon Yeah, got it. Thanks for the clarification. Do you have an answer to the question I tagged you in one of my previous posts?

            Piokilek Next time just don't share information of which you're not sure whether or not you're well informed about. But hey, no hard feelings?

                  CKtalon
                  One more Point change the Terms of Service http://hschuster.userweb.mwn.de/Gesetze%20pdf/DS-GVO.pdf
                  Because this:
                  10 .Your California Privacy Rights
                  Residents of California have the right to request a disclosure describing what types of personal information we have shared with third parties for their direct marketing purposes, and with whom we have shared it, during the preceding calendar year. You may request a copy of that disclosure by contacting us at service@webnovel.com.

                  Should be for the entire EU Population because of the GDPR from 2016 every site that collects data from members of the EU must give the member their collected data after a request.

                    CKtalon Okay, let's say it's a bug, surely you would normally release those chapters not released due to the bug right?

                        A book that charges 10 spirit stone per page 10ss x 300pages = 3000 spirit stone that is 50$ For a American author selling a hard cover books they get royalty's most hard cover books sell at 5-15$ and the author only get a faction 99cent to 3$ most per book and maybe a signing bonus on 1,000 to 5,000. Now days on kindle you can get 300 page books for 1.99$ 2.99 3.99 all the way up to 9.99. Overprice i could under stand paying 2x or 3x for original author website and translators but we are at 5x times the price.
                        Privilege i can understand getting bonus money for faster release but 2500 spirit stone for 50 chapters is 50 spirit stone a chapter including the you still have to unlock it but that making each chapter cost 4x to 16x ( 3spirit stone chapters) the regular the price. So say you privilege unlock 300 pages of a 10 spirit stone book that is 300$ and to completely unlock it is another 50$ that is a 350$ book. Let be reasonable if any Author and book company was making this much money they be crying tear of joys same with kindal and barns and noble
                        Wonders how much it cost to get the novel in US currency untranslated would like to compare to how much it cost translated

                          Ok so my understanding might be wrong but
                          you buy 50 Privilege chapters and at the end of the month and privilege ends and you only can read unprivileged chapter so the novel that you are reading comes out with 2 chapters a day 14 a week 28 2weeks 56 a month sense you read 50 chapter ahead and now you cant does that mean you cant read the novel for entire month without buying privileges again
                          if i am wrong please correct me

                            Mute As I said, once we set to auto release, we can't control the release rate.

                            So if we miss a release, we can't 'make up' for it.
                            Auto-release

                            Manual release

                            If it's manual release, we will know there's a problem when trying to release, but when it's auto release, we sometimes don't even know if there's a problem. After all, some of us groups are releasing more than a hundred chapters a day for all our books. Doing it manually is just too time consuming.

                            • Mute replied to this.

                                Alexdare Yes, which is why it is stated in the 'Help'. There's a warning that "After expiration of Privilege, if one doesn't continue purchasing or upgrading Privilege, there might be a very long period of time before you can see new content. "

                                    Hmm. @WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL Maybe a common asked/FAQ post could be handy here? Seems there's lots of common questions flying around. I'm kind of bit confused.

                                    CKtalon Okay, so is the system so ridged that you can't manually release missed chapters then set auto release again?

                                      So webnovel idea is to have people pay 50$ to get 50 chapter ahead and to then be stuck paying that 50$ every month or they wont be able to read the novel for a month.
                                      So here is some ideas
                                      Privilege the author will post extra chapters anywhere from 10-50 ahead of schedule these chapters will cost additional ss 2x or 3x the regular price when unlock they will be forever unlocked. So say a novel with 150 chapters the first 100 cost 5 spirit stones the last 50 cost 15 spirit stones then it changes to 152 well the first 102 cost 5ss and the last 50 cost 15 ss and keep going all webnovels could put in a new system like that it would not rake in huge money from wales but a more steady income from more people when you look at US author that make alot of money of selling there book it isn't from from 100 people buy 100$ books but from 10,000-1,000,000 people buying 5$ books as the prices rise less people will be able to afford it.
                                      New Elite Mode pay 50$ a month and gain 200 ss daily they only last 30 days
                                      New Elite Mode 2 pay a monthly subscribe different prices 10 20 30 40 50$ 10$ give 10% discount of spirit stone need for each chapter 20$ gives 20% 50$ 50%
                                      Lower ss cost

                                      CKtalon It's this one:

                                      Do you know if WN will implement the functionality to hide the Privilege chapters count in readers' library if they are not Privilege members? This has been requested by a lot of people. Besides the argument that it's annoying, if you check the chapter comments of the Privilege novels, it seems that a lot of uninformed people misinterpret the advance chapters as a mass release when they see the chapters count. They get excited about it only to get confused and/or disappointed afterwards when they realize that they can't see these chapters and unlock them.

                                          I did not really care about about Privilege at first but now I really hate it. It's messed with my Library and I can't keep track of my novels since the amount chapters is different then it appears... Sigh

                                            Cantiara Why would they do that. They are here to non stop try to entice fools into spending their money hand over fist. If the fools are not constantly reminded about how many chapters they arn't able to read right now then how would they trick... I mean convince them to spend money to read them. The funny thing is that NO ONE has noticed the REAL issue on this. IT only works ONCE. Once you have read all the future chapters you once again ONLY get normal chapter release rate. You get nothing extra. You end up paying an extra LARGE amount of money to read these few chapters and then get nothing EXTRA for it. Also, from what I have read on the forums some people are saying IT only works on ONE LN.

                                            Interdict its only for that specific novel, and it only lasts a month so once it runs out you will be waiting a while until the normal chapters catch up unless you are gonna pay that each month

                                                  SorcererCat its only for that specific novel, and it only lasts a month so once it runs out you will be waiting a while until the normal chapters catch up unless you are gonna pay that each month

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