Self control is needed no matter what. Just don't spend money you don't have on something like this. Go to library to get some kicks while waiting for em to be available will do.

    natto Ok let me explain the difference to you. Lets take a look at Qi system;

    Lets take Immortal Mortal for example.

    24 chs/week release rate
    7 chs/week for free

    24 - 7 = 17ch

    So every week 17ch will be added into the premium pool. Immortal Mortal started with 10 premium chapters. After a week there will be 27 premium chapters. Next week that will become 44... After 3 months you will be 214 chapters behind premium readers. Understand the system?

    Now lets look at patreon;

    You will be behind a fixed number of chapters behind the paying people. The number will never grow. If they are giving out 10 chapters early access, then it will always stay as 10 chapters. You will never be behind more than that 10 chapters. It won't grow to hundreds of chapters like in Qi system. Understand the difference?

    You can stop paying for patreon any time you want, but if you start reading premium chapters in Qi, you better not stop till the end of the novel. Because once you stop, it will take months for free chapters to catch up to the point you are at and it will be pointless that you payed to unlock chapters to that point. So if you start unlocking premium chapters, you better be ready to keep doing it till the end of the novel...

        N0xiety good explanation. That's exactly what I dislike about QI's system. Either you are a leecher or you are a whale who can spam the unlock button, but the ppl who occasionally wanna spent some money are totally being disregarded in this system

          "whale" is kinda out of proportion, I'll ballpark immortal mortal at about 25ish bucks if what I've heard of it being about 1200ish chapters long ? that sounds about fair for a book, far as microtransaction goes that's on the dirty cheap side of things, whales are people that spend tens of thousands bucks/month and upward from there.

          That aside, partial spending would still be feasible, N0xiety, because even if one wouldn't want to buy spirit stones anymore, there is still the check in bonus, so at minimum advancing one premium chapter a day is possible.

            ciopo But then what was even the point of reading to that point by unlocking the chapters? If you are gonna stop, you might just as well wait for free chapters from start and read 1 free chapter per day. If you are gonna start unlocking tho, stopping isn't a good idea since it would be pretty much pointless. You better have the conviction to keep unlocking untill the novel reaches it's end...

              natto let's have sex (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

                  and now i regret unlock RTW premium chapter. premium chapter is just like blackhole to your spirit stone. once you join premium, you lose your right to get free chapter, every new chapter will become premium chapter, and if you want to stop, you need to wait till the free reader catch up to you.
                  its okay if its just 10 chapter, you can still wait for free reader, but based on the calculation there will be hundreds of premium chapter in a month and maybe thousand in a year. can you wait that long ? i think its better to stop now and just become free reader, its not worth it. its a black hole

                    sunstrike RTW premium isn't that bad actually. You should still be able to keep up with the premium chapters if you use all the free ss you get daily. Well, that is ofc considering that the prices will stay the same and they won't decrease the free ss ammount in the future.

                        natto I hope it never becomes premium or else another novel on my list will have to take the backseat. Immortal Mortal, Rise of the Legendary Guardian, and Release the Witch have already taken the fall. IM is the novel which got me started on Qidian and I’m really sad to let it go.

                        Re: Patreon vs Premium
                        Patreon is entirely voluntary and it depends on the donor on how much he/she wants to shell out. The premium system on the other hand is somewhat forcing the avid readers (fans) of the selected novels to pay for the updates.

                        I hope the ads system gets re-implemented soon on the premium novels. It’s just so much of a buzzkill from getting 3 chapter updates down to 1 per day.

                            natto why do I get the feeling that you are someone from Qidian and was sent here on the forums to promote the new premium system? Hmm...

                                Lyle_Walt So I was not the only one. I checked is profile and all he is been doing is asking for premium on monster paradise and saying premium is better

                                    Lomacris I’m sure a lot of us here noticed this. I was just stating the obvious. Lol. :)

                                        Thank god I'm always waiting a few months to binge read a whole story arc. This change would make me so salty otherwise.

                                          Lyle_Walt
                                          Yup, definitely a qidian agent.
                                          At this point, I'm only waiting for aggregator site to start making script and accounts to grab the chapters

                                              Premium "forces" you to pay.

                                              Patreon let's people leech, depending on others to give several dollars a month, when the translator would be much better off if
                                              everyone just gave one small dollar a month

                                              sunstrike It is not the best way to solve the problem, but I only read one premium novel, RTW, so I am just saving all my spirit stones for that and watching adds for all my other novels. I didn't bother saving up any of my stones and only have about 80 left.

                                                  ImperfectInfinity
                                                  17 chapter / week. premium chapter cost 8 spirit stones. it means you need around 17x8= 136 spirit stones/ week
                                                  while daily check in only gives you 8-12 spirit stones. if the average spirit stones you got per days is 10 spirit stones. in a week you only got 70 spirit stones. its still not enough spirit stones. with 70 spirit stones you only got 8.75 chapter/week, while free user still got 7 chapter a week.
                                                  its better to wait and dont waste your spirit stones on premium chapter

                                                      sunstrike daily check in give you at least 16-20 for me. I guess level matters too? Voting power stone and energy stone should give you at least 10 regardless of level though

                                                          sunstrike You get 5 spirit stones for voting for the power rankings and 5 for voting for the next novel to be released, bringing total possible daily free stones to about 20 a day. Just enough.

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