Positive_Lullaby Then I'm not sure why you're even complaining about these chapters since they're cheaper than patreon shrug
Anyway, daily check-in is 7-13 and not 7-12; moreover, you get +5 SS from energy stones and +5 SS from power stones, so from a minimum of 17 to a maximum of 23 (average of 20). An average chapter is 3k Chinese words and around 2k words in English, therefore 10 SS. MMO's chapters are longer than average, not sure how I'm lying about it. For example, RTW is 7 SS and BNHH is 3-4 SS per chapter. I wanted to lie I could have brought BNHH as an example, saying that chapters are very cheap lol. You get more content and you pay more, it's only natural I guess? By the way, you're the one omitting stuff and feeding people wrong information to prove your point. Again, do your posts even have a point beside whining and accusing other people of lying? :thinking:
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Positive_Lullaby Give me a link to your favorite translator's patreon. I want to see how many chapter you can read if you pledge $50.
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GodBrandy Well, ofc there is no problem right now, but i dread the future. I follow 22 novels, can't imagine every one of them turning premium. That would pretty much mean about $270 a month if the Bonus SS promotion ends in the following months. If the bonus ss promotion is fixed and i can maximize my bonus ss gain with $50 bulk purchase every time, that would still come to about $90 a month. It's a system that pushes me to read less novels. Now i'm afraid, maybe i shouldn't try new novels for the time being since it will be quite annoying if i have even more novels to pay for every month. Ofc you can say, 'just pay for your favorites and wait for the rest', but it's still quite annoying being forced to wait and watch premium chapters stack up. For example, Immortal Mortal free readers will be 214 chapters behind premium readers in 3 months. That's quite a lead they got there. And i'm never going to even try reading Immortal Mortal at this point. Don't wanna add another one to the list...
Ofc i don't know if or when all those 22 novels will become premium, but the future looks bleak for people who read alot of novels like me..
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Most translators who use Patreon unlock some number of advance chapters, but after consuming the advance chapters, you are still stuck with the same daily release rate as non Patrons. QI does a bit better in that Premium chapters have a higher release rate than free chapters.
I think that the Premium novels are a fine idea, but the cost for reading one should be MUCH LESS THAN that of an industry standard e-book of the same length. The reason web novels should be cheaper is that the quality of translated work is typically less than that of traditionally published novels, and more importantly, with a complete novel you can read the whole thing rather than 2 chapters per day.
Hopefully QI will just introduce a site wide subscription service, similar to, but much cheaper than Kindle Unlimited. After all, the number of KU books greatly exceeds the number of translated novels available on webnovel.com.
No way to boycott. Majority of the active People on forum supports QI and the TL for QI are very protective.
You might as well go to other forums to voice it out
N0xiety I think you should tell him the problem of the SS Wall.
Does the TLers outside of QI put walls over their chapters? Do they say I give u 17 weekly chapters but now these chapters are paid chapters when they were free? Lol ( RTW )
They don’t and that’s what the problem.
WW TLers have a fixed amount released per week and the rest comes from donations or Patreon.
GodBrandy Not everyone is a "miser" you say. You know that is a extremely rude and stupid thing to say. You don't know the lives of no one on the website and that gives you no right to comment on how other people spend their money. That just proves you are an extremely cocky and stupid bastard to think that everyone should have money to spend on novels. Not everyone is paid just to translate (subpar) novels and bash the community and your costumers in a forum . So if you going to say something, think before you say something as stupid and idiotic as that.
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Just live with it man, back in the days when I was following Rtw on Volarie, the release rate was much worse. If you want better release speed and translation quality for the novels, people need to be working full time on the project.
Though as with all the freemium business model, only less than 10% of the customers will form the paying base. For the remaining people, it would be good if a watch with ads option can be made available.
Of coz, I think Webnovel did a poor job in managing the experience of readers during the launch of the premium model. If you look at most freemium business out there, transition between premium and freemium should be clearly communicated.
Lomacris QI pays him. So why should he be happy if people don’t want to support QI?
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Don’t talk to the TLers of this place... they are too biased
immortal_corrupt They are biased and some of them didn't receive any education at all
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Boycott my butt, If anyone still continue discussion in this topic, then you must be kicked by a donkey in the head, if you want to sponsor ,the sponsor ,if you dont want to no one will force you, besides when you get your meal free of charge you have no right to cmplain about extra salt, nothing is free in this wolrd, so to the noisy ones : ''shut up will 'ya ''
Oh btw this is a me another freeloader complaining about the noise., the walls are thin.
immortal_corrupt Do they say I give u 17 weekly chapters but now these chapters are paid chapters when they were free? Lol ( RTW )
In case of RTW:
You still get 7 free chapter, but yes people with premium will be way ahead in the story than you if you don't pay up.
In contrast to the old translator it's still better. He/She only translated 4 chapter per week and sometimes didn't release any "normal" chapters on that week because of time issues, but still was able to release donation chapter (sounds BS for me atleast, but no one had any problems).
immortal_corrupt Does the TLers outside of QI put walls over their chapters?
I would say yes. Patreon chapters and premium chapter are the same in my opinion, with the difference that people don't get the difference in chapter count smacked in their face.
..... This place sure is heating up... I dont care tho, just be civil with your words guys.
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GodBrandy you should look in a mirror and reflect on what you said. Im sure that you yourself is a miser. Meh.. all human with circumstance are all a miser...
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GodBrandy Seriously man? You don't return to me, but write something like this
GodBrandy Miser detected :stuck_out_tongue:
to others? I guess it's not in your interest to reply to my post that has some solid points right? I guess i'm a miser too for dreading about potentially having to pay $270 monthly in the future? I'm sorry for not having that kind of money to spend on web novels, my bad. Should have been more successful in life....
SRandom You gotta remember that Rox did 2 chapters a day for a long time, like half a year. That's how RtW got so popular to start with. It was only at the end when he had some real life issues that the release rate dropped. Serious ones, like housing. Producing high quality, high speed work everyday is not easy, and everyone at some point in time meets real life, like getting sick, getting married, new job, having kids, etc. Just wanted to point that out. He worked really hard and put out chapters fast for as long as he could. But that is quickly forgotten.
Ebu8b I am not too sure of the release speed from the old translator but what I do know is that it was kinda slow so I usually wait for a week or two and as for why donations chapter being released it is cuz people who donated know that it will be released asap
As for those donations it is another story so we need not go there.
Let’s focus on QI
What I am talking about it the normal chapters. So it used to be 17 free chapters with the ads and little SS that is covered with the daily SS
But now it is still 17 chapters but 7 free and 10 paid with a release of 1 per day? But so far I did not seee any release on my RTW novel.
So that is the point
As for Patreon, it is the choice to support or not and it does not affect the rate of free chapters (well, that is how most TLers handle it so I will take that as the role model)
But here it is we need to pay for the chapters which was originally free?
If RTW released the 17 weekly chapters and release others as advanced I will have nobe Hint to say....
Well..
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immortal_corrupt it does not affect the rate of free chapters
And at the same time that release rate is often lower than 7 chaps per week.
immortal_corrupt we need to pay for the chapters which was originally free?
Pay or wait. These are the two option you have, the same as for other translator.
immortal_corrupt I did not seee any release on my RTW novel.
Okay that is weird. Because you should see one free chapter per day. First time hearing that. Maybe bug on your side? I use my SS for the premium chapters and therefore I can't see the release for the free chapter anymore.
immortal_corrupt used to be 17 free chapters with the ads and little SS that is covered with the daily SS
Well that can I say beside that Qidian has to pay the editor, translator, author, their staff and then needs profit to increase/improve their service. Unlike other sites who don't pay the author (some translator share their patreon money with the author like CK did when he was still in WW) or have the pressure to increase their profit.
immortal_corrupt for why donations chapter being released it is cuz people who donated know that it will be released asap
You wanna tell that the translator who went MIA almost every third week, isn't so lazy that he would just post the normal 4 chapter per week as donation chapter. But sincerely translated the donation chapters but not the weekly chapters.
He didn't even finish all the donation chapters, so someone else had to do it. If it is about other translator, I would most likely give you the point, but not for the old translator of RTW. And yes I am biased towards that translator.