Lomacris For the translators and editors insulting the readers who are unwilling or unable to pay, I can only say shame on them.

I am not saying the voicing of one's opinion is a problem, but we are going nowhere if we are just going to disregard the argument of others and emphasize the same opinions over and over again. Of course, I am not saying everyone on the forum is like that, but there have been quite a bit of that on the forum. At the very least, I think my responses are based on the arguments that others have built. I don't ask you to agree with my point of view, but I introduce new perspectives for everyone to view the matter with in hopes that they can see the rationale behind my stand better. I believe that this is how a discussion should proceed on.

I am not too sure about what concerns and doubts those on the forum have regarding the premium, so I may I ask about it here? If it's within my means, I'll try to answer them.

And regarding the point about there being no facts to argue about, the main issue I take with that is when people make assumptions without stating them under such circumstances, and others simply assume them to be true and quote them on it. It is much easier to spread false news than to squash them, I believe many can agree with me on that.

      StarveCleric
      Pretty sure most political discussions these days go like this anyway... Regardless, your analogy is flawed in that you are comparing someone exercising their right to free speech against translators, who risk losing their income with any negative comment they make regarding Qidian or their policies, a comparison which I believe is greatly misleading.
      However, I agree that we should not completely discount a translators opinion, rather we should treat their comments as an extension of QI's position on the subject, as opposed to a completely personal and unbiased account of their own.

        Let's say if I wanted to reach LOTH with unlocking before FREE chapters catch me.
        Let's make an elementary math.
        Let's say LOHP is ended at 1100. (You know it won't ended at 1100,right?)
        and Premium program start at 600.(after removing initial free chapters i can get for this week?)
        500 chapters x 14 ss (the last chapter I checked had 14599 words in English)
        7000 ss (around 50 $) and you know the novel is not ended yet.
        And if the release rate is still the same 14/week for 500 chapter it will be 35 week (around 9 month) for me to finish reading while paying.
        If I don't unlock chapter and go with FREE release rate 7/week? 70 week(1 year and 4 month) for me to reached to Chapter 1100.
        And I don't only read one webnovel alone.
        Let's say I will have to spend 50$ for 1 webnovel I read, I will have to spend 500 $(in 9 month) for 10 webnovels.

        May be it isn't that much money for other people but I can just buy 40 famous translated works or even yenpress ones(13$x40).
        Yes I already had some of these books.
        Yes I have my living expenses and some other hobbies too.

        Well, I am just blabbering something coz I am bored.
        May be I will have hibernate the whole year and binge read FREE chapters again.
        I still have free spirit stones so actually I can still read some titles here.
        May be I will buy around 1-10 $ when I am out of SS.
        I will have to quit reading each and every FREE book I see.
        I still like LOTH tho.
        I just wish there are more suitable payment program (more cheaper one preferably)

        Threetimess 400 SS for about 40 chapters with 2-3k wordcount, for a total of 80-120k words, which is the average word count of a standard published novel as well. How much does 400 SS cost? 8 usd. And that is on top of the free 30 SS you get a day, the free chapters, and the occasional mass release.

            TargetPractice1 Hmm.. maybe you're right, but I think (could be wrong) that was right before it became premium so that was in preparation for it. I don't believe free users saw even one week of that release rate before it became premium.

                Oxy Yes, 400ss for 40 chapters, that's about the same you have to spend for a fantasy paperback. But you get a physical copy without fillers or repetitions and a properly revised translation. The digital versions are even cheaper, especially when you use subscriptions like kindle unlimited and you read >2 books per month, which is not much.
                PS: you don't get free chapters once you start unlocking premium chapters and the free ss are negligible if you wanna read multiple premium novels.

                    Oxy i never see translator in qidian ever mass release, except when that novel become premium for the first time.

                    i only pay 10$ for netflix and i can watch all i want for 1 month in my country, but i need to pay much much more to read novels here dude, are you crazy?

                    I already told you, i want to help translator and author too, i can even pay 10$/month if qidian really make this happen, but i want to read all the chapters for free, not like this. I have 12 novels in my library right now, can you imagine how much i must pay to keep reading the latest chapters if all 12 become premium? (this will become reality soon or later)

                    The only way for me is only reading 1-2 novels and paid hundreds of dollars to read the others

                    or i can go to piracy site and read all i want

                    So, basically qidian make the readers go away, even for readers like me who can afford to pay.

                    because this system is really really really expensive if you are a hardcore reader like me (have more than 10 novels in library).

                    Do You know what will happen with novels that not too popular? no one will bother to read them because we must make a choice if many more novels will become premium in the future.

                    We don't really got impacted for now, because only 1 premium novel in my library right now (library of heaven path), but the situation will become uglier in the future

                    And for your information, i live in South East Asia (Indonesia), 10$ a month is expensive for most people here, because average income/month in my country is only $450.

                    So, this system is really broken for me, and i will keep reading here as long as i can, when more novels in my library become premium, then good by forever, i can still read on another site

                      Yakumo
                      $9.99 a month like Kindle unlimited ebook subscription is much better deal for readers.
                      If qidian want they can make 2 section: some books publish free while most popular novel are in subscription system.

                          This is meaningless. They will not change until they see with their own eyes that here is not the China where they can force others to buy their shit. In two or three months we will see the results. see ya

                          TargetPractice1 the person controlling the Webnovel account is probably one of the bosses. Learning English to a great standard probably isn't that high up on their list, as they're probably busy running this project...

                              jer0055 I would first like to address the issue about being forced to drop the quality of our translations in exchange for speed. A good translator manages his time rather than sacrifices the quality of his work under ANY circumstance.

                              Secondly, I'm not sure if you've missed the point, but a subscription basis would do no help towards balancing out the pay grade for every single novel under the scheme. Lets put it this way. Assuming you're Brad Pitt and you're made to star in a series featuring some random nobody from the streets. Now, I'm asking the audiences to pay a subscription fee to watch the series and I'm offering you to split the revenue evenly into half with the nobody. Would YOU do that? That's the same type of disparity that's going to happen between the top rated novel and the bottom rated novel of premium. Cheers!

                                  My 2 cents:
                                  Someone made a comparisson about the income of the translator and the income of an author (J.K.Rowling) and that is would not be enough for her if she got only 50.000$
                                  But this comparisson is bullshit. No matter how much she makes i only have to pay 49,99 for the whole book with PERFECT translation into my language. Here you have to pay (thanks to the premium system) 200$ and more for alot of poor translations.

                                  There were many ideas how Qidian could improve their premium system without losing readers or creating such an outrage. But Qidian outright ignored every idea. In such a case there is only 1 conclusion the reader can make:
                                  Qidian doesn't care how long they will operate as long as they make as much money as possible.

                                  natto well, books on kindle aren't being translated and continuously updated, so obviously, it cannot be compared directly. But there are hundreds of free books on kindle.

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