Take_the_Moon I agree. I I hate those kind of novels. I though I do like my wife is a beautiful ceo, I think that is the only way one that has 'rape' in in it.

There aren't really that many wuxias that have a single love interest, that disappoints me. I can't get into romance novels because its the same thing over and over: trash FL, and I good guy.... Love... Past... and cringe romantic rivals.

You may say that its the same with wuxias, but I'm biased.

    lozlo
    In the beginning, when I was very innocent, I saw the tags, but I never thought the ML would rape the FL, because of the "good" synopsis or the "good" comments. I knew I was going to have rape, but I did not think rape culture would be used as the basis for romance.

    Yes, there are some novels, that the person questions how they let this crap be published in Chinese, in any language on-site or book. The worst is neither the writer of the original language, the worse are the translators. How do you read a story about rape and translate, saying it's romance?

    Anyway, now I read only after finding at least two bad comments, in the case with well-constructed negative reviews, that can clarify to me what was bad in story, of course, if their opinion is only by the weak plot or something, I I'll go check it out, if it's because of the violent content, with SDM or rape, I already put it on the blacklist.

        TheGentlemenWorld I'm just happy my wife isn't like that, though I did catch her once reading one of those gay novels, she said her friend recommended it, I'm safe...

        Those yaoi novels are pretty annoying though, have to black list them every time I find a good series.

          Take_the_Moon Yeah. I'm not so sure about the innocent part for me, because I've read some dark stories over the years. But none of them had claimed it was romance, from what I remember. And even that left me a gut-wrenching feeling. When I actually read something where it was used as romance, I feel anger instead. But I view the translator and author as being equal to some extent. However, in the end, I actually think worse of the author. The translator may not know what's going to happen when they start the story. And, if you've translated 400 chapters, it's hard to stop and tell everyone you aren't going to finish it. After all, "it's just fiction," even if it upsets us. The author, on the other hand, knew exactly what they were doing, and even had a choice. They didn't have to go that route, but they did it for whatever reason. Their dark fantasies, shock factor, money, etc. The thing that really gets me though, is when people try to justify it by saying it's part of the culture. If it's part of the culture, then fuck that culture. Let it burn.
          However, I don't begrudge people their fantasies. I understand that sometimes people need something to shake things up. And, unfortunately, it does exist in real life to some extent. Just don't justify that shit. Don't try to tell me it's okay or acceptable.

          Ha. That's actually pretty close to what I do a lot recently. I'll browse comments on why people didn't like the series. And I pretty much ignore any comment that says things like "gary stu, mary sue, unoriginal, cliche, plot armor," and so on. I assume those people don't have a valid opinion because they're posting unoriginal and cliche complaints. How are you going to post a cliche complaint about how a novel is cliche? I mean, seriously, you don't like that it has plot armor? What story doesn't have plot armor? I question the sense of people who make those complaints. Just say that you feel like the main character is too bland or has no personality. Say that the base for the romance sucks, or that the protagonist never loses a fight because he always magically powers up in the middle of the fight. Anyway, there have been a few times where I read comments that explained how the tags were wrong, in both a good way and a bad way. So I usually do browse them now, even if the tags/story sound okay at a glance.

              lozlo
              Lately, I have found many soul mates here in the Forum!
              You're the third!
              Nice to meet you!
              I agree! Don't justify rape culture, domestic violence, racism and other n things like culture!

              Fucking culture is my beautiful ass! >>>> I'm sorry about this!

              I will not even make a great text, I'm very tired now. But I agree with you if people want to read about an ML that always puts FL at risk, to the point where she almost dies several times, just because of his selfish motives, and the reads want to find that ML a sweet and nice guy, I can't do anything about it! Each has the right for reads to be SDM and MD, I don't care!

              Now to say that all this crap is normal and is what every woman dreams of having ... God defend me!

              I'm a woman and I do not want that kind of ML in my life!

              Xoxo

                  TheGentlemenWorld Sooo... I was reading a few comments on a romantic fiction and I saw this. 'That is what makes this novel so great. The guy starts to fall in love with the protagonist, who he thinks is a guy, and he becomes conflicted and... hehehe' Shit, I wanted to stop going on this website when I read that.

                  Women are always terrifying, only deep, after you spend years in the dao of ero you could understand some of their thoughts and wishes

                      Take_the_Moon I don't know about that. I tend to make everyone mad eventually. Chauvinists and Feminists both hate me, lol. I'm mostly realistic and logical. And somewhat curious. It tends to drive people crazy.
                      But we do seem to agree on quite a few things and it's nice to meet you too. ;p

                      No worries, I don't know your time zone, but it was almost midnight when I commented. It must have been pretty late for you too. And... To some extent, I understand wanting to save the FL. However, I don't understand torturing her. I know they say you always hurt the ones you love, but you aren't supposed to do it on purpose!

                      The unfortunate part, from my experience, is that when you tell a woman about it, they don't want it. But, in real life, it's what they chase. They want the excitement and the mystery. And they want to change him. My guess is that it makes them feel important and special to take a horrible person and reform them. It's like standing in a bear trap to entice a bear over so you can tame it. Thing is, chances are you aren't going to tame that bear, you're going to get mauled by it. Even if you do tame him, you're definitely going to get mauled a bit. I just don't understand it. From a logical perspective, it doesn't seem like it's worth it. But, everyone has different values and desires.

                      Anyway, it's almost time for me to go to work, lol. So, on a different and somewhat unrelated note. What are your currently active stories? And which one, other than the BL one, is your favorite?
                      Since we seem to get along so well, I'm going to have to take a look at one of your stories. ;p
                      And... if you want, I can probably edit some of it in the process. Hopefully, you won't take offense to that. _;;

                          lozlo How are you going to post a cliche complaint about how a novel is cliche? I mean, seriously, you don't like that it has plot armor? What story doesn't have plot armor?

                          Just saying, some don't. What plot armour is, is when the MC or some other character wins because of some 'power of friendship' or 'magical powerups'. You answered your own question.

                          You can also remove plot armour if you make the MC overpowered from the start, that way, others can't say it's plot armour.

                          There is only one series that I think doesn't have plot armour that uses luck as MC's base: Cultivation Group Chat.

                              idkmylifeisamess I mean, if luck isn't plot armor, then I don't know what is. Every story has it to some extent. Some are just over the top, and some are minor.

                                  😂 I have no problem with bxb but I don't really read it. My friend (girl) loves to talk to me about it everytime... with all the squealing and such. It's even more terrifying when she starts "captioning" or formulating stories when we come across a group of guys at a mall or the streets.

                                  Seeing that they have come here and can't control themselves... I'm kinda worried reading the comments section now.

                                  I hope they don't go as far as elaborating private stuffs... My friend is already so much for me to handle. 😅

                                    lozlo
                                    No offense, I actually feel flattered!

                                    Besides my BL story, I have five more, two in hiatus and three active ones, I will put the links at the end of the comment.

                                    I am a woman and I do not like this kind of thing of being humiliated to gain love ... For me this is sickness!
                                    I am one of the people who criticize about this kind of valorization of domestic violence and rape, as if it were normal to be seen as love!

                                    It's wrong! I hate even more who says this is culture!
                                    No longer enough are the 1x1 novels in which the characters (Ml and FL) seem to live a life of disagreement and problems of 5-year-old children. Yes, five years old, because I can not see adults in these types of novels. What does it cost to sit and talk about relationship problems?

                                    Am I the crazy one here? However, these novels in which it is full of misunderstanding is still close to reality because I have seen relationships work that way in the real world, taking into account that I think both parties need psychological treatment. >>>> The question is at least it's real!

                                    I do not know if I could explain myself right ?!

                                    Links:
                                    https://www.webnovel.com/book/11639355206451405/I-am-reincarnated-as-the-Female-Leader%2C-but-I-want-to-marry-the-villain!
                                    https://www.webnovel.com/book/11547345006417705/The-Power-of-Blood
                                    https://www.webnovel.com/book/11737011605504505/The-girl-who-wanted-to-be-a-hero%2C-but-reincarnate-as-a-villain!
                                    If you want you can even read the other two in hiatus.

                                    Xoxo

                                        NuffZedd
                                        Ohhh, so there's this kind of girl ?!
                                        I'm surprised, I thought it was just anime and manga!
                                        Well I like BL and I do not wonder if friends or groups of friends are more than that. Is weird. Not to mention that, what do I have to do with them?
                                        I do not know why but when I imagine this friend of yours, I can not help but laugh at you and her, it must be embarrassing.
                                        I have a friend (girl), who talks very loud, so when she saw (now she is married and pregnant) a very handsome boy, she would comment aloud and then walk away, leaving me and my other friends being faced by this "boy handsome, "as if we were the ones who had spoken of him!

                                        I put it just to say, that I also have a friend that embarrasses me .... That's because she does not like BL, if she did, I would already be dead of shame!

                                        Xoxo

                                          Zetheryl I understand, But I've seen worse, grown men and teenage boys who like hentai. Which we all know is about rape fantasies and pedophilia. Harem novel enthusiasts who really really like the vapid representations of women that make up that harem which was highly likely to have been written by an author who most likely lives in a basement, barely knows women outside from porn sites and the afore-mentioned hentai.

                                          One of the girls I work with likes to read these boy on boy books, and shows and youtube boy on boy fanvids etc. Good God. She even showed me the vids about harry and niall from one direction being in love. Watching that vid almost made me a believer. Anyway... I think what mostly hooks girls on these is probably the idea of two attractive people falling in love despite everything that says they shouldn't. Which is basically the whole concept of romance. I think them being of the same gender adds to the spice. Sort of like guys who think girl on girl is hot.

                                              Take_the_Moon Yep, I know. But I wanted you to pick the one you like the most. ;p
                                              I might read the others later, but I'll only start with one. And probably not until next week.
                                              I have some things I need to catch up on, bleh. I was lazy last week and got behind on some work.

                                              It is a sickness on some level. But the cause varies from person to person, and it's hard to help those people. Then again, I think most people in this world have a distorted view of love. It's probably been like that for a very long time considering the history of every country.

                                              Communications is a big issue with relationships though. It's a major cause of many failed relationships. And it boggles my mind that people can get in a serious relationship with someone, but not be willing to talk to them when there is a problem. Or so I say. I guess I understand some of it, but not all of it. Opening up to someone can be hard. However, if you can't be open with them, should you really be in an intimate relationship with them? I don't think so. Maybe I'm crazy though.

                                              They probably needed psychological treatment long before they even started the relationship, lol. But, don't we all on some level? Oh well.

                                                  lozlo
                                                  In short: We are all crazy on some level and we need treatment!

                                                  We agree on one more thing: If you cannot open yourself to a person, how should you be in an intimate relationship with that person ?!

                                                  Well, as you said, maybe I'm crazy, too? Or you will see that "love" is the problem! Hahahahaha! Pity the "love" that takes the guilt of everything!

                                                  Ohhhh I await your decision on the story.

                                                  Xoxo

                                                      Take_the_Moon So you're not going to tell me which one is your favorite? lol.
                                                      I'm indecisive by nature. But I guess I can read the synopsis for them later and pick one. ;p

                                                      I might go take a nap first. And mess up my sleep cycle again, lol. I just feel kind of bleh the last few days. Oh well.

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