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  • Do you think it is possible for cultivators to exist in real life?

Yes the monks and China are cultivator the problem is that something is missing. Maybe is your body is locked because of the brain maybe we don't have I new sorce of nutrition (like when we cook the raw meat our body didn't have to burn so much energy to digest the food so the extra energy got to the brain and the brain evolved and got a lot bigger.)

    Well in my opinion if there is something lacking it would be knowledge. Like cultivation manuals and so on. In my opinion they do exist, and there is a way, but it's hidden from the masses, and you need a lot of luck to stumble uppon that. We deny the fact about heaven and earth energy existing because we can't see, feel or touch it. There are cases of people cultivating the so called qi or chi as the energy coming from within yourself. But that seems in a range of wuxia I would say, just improving yourself a little with martial arts.

    I know the question is similar to subjects like : does even supernatural exist? does magic exist? does God exist?

    I am just curious what are your opinions on the subject. Is there even the slightest probability for cultivators to exist in our world?

      DaoBart I think it is possible and while I have many ideas about stuff like this, it’s too much to write and I am too lazy

        I think if you make the characters in the Catholic Bible “cultivators”, it will explain a lot.
        No offense to Catholics though.

          Cultivator... I think they don't exist but I think human can evolve in something similar with an adeguate time, environment and technology but cultivation with strange manuals of studying the law of universe (the so called martial Dao) isn't very likely to exist

            NorthernLakeDaoist you can think that some life form that is birth on a planet that have a gravity that's 100 time earth when on earth is comparable to superman That with a jump can overcome the whole Malaya mountains

              All of those shackles of mortality makes me angry. Especialy the catholic point of view! (I am not a religious racist or something, everybody has different taste, somebody prefers apple over pineapple and everybody can have a different point of view). But like 33% of the world population is following Christianity, we can say it is the main religion of our present world. It is said that we have a free will! but dmn how can we have a free will if there isn't a way for us to improve? I would give everything for a way to cultivate myself, to get stronger. But what do we get? mundane life without a slightest chance to surpass our mortal selves! All those lectures about free will but we don't even have a choice to get stronger, to change our fate! Dem, even the bible states that we have a free will, but still Lucifer got sent to hell because he disobeyed God. How is this free will if your ambitions differ from the so called God and you get sent to hell for punishment.

              That's why i find xianxia cultivation the best thing ever. You are the only factor that decides your destiny.

              I would give up everything for even a slightest chance to become a cultivator! Even if I've missed the best period of my life to cultivate!

              Wouldn't you?

                I believe everything in this world follow some principles or laws. We give meaning to those we could see and understand. We also make theories based upon assumptions to satisfy our own curiosity.

                We always disparage those who imagine things and have believes beyond imagination. Until we have a breakthrough in the field of genetics, people refuse to believe in the path of evolution or cultivation.

                  If you really want to gain an insight into cultivation, climb Mount Everest on your bare feet without the use of any equipments.
                  It's not necessary to reach the peak, bit there's a chance that you may gain something ( there were some people who could even cure chronic illness through these pilgrimages), that's the place with the highest chance to find anything

                    Overlord_Venus or it could be a good way to kill yourself trying 😅
                    The first guy to climb Everest without oxygen mask did not think that he will return alive
                    Well his obsession has probably given him some sort of enlightment so if anyone want to follow his foodsteps be ready to die trying. If that’s ok with you then next step is to not log in in here for a few months so you can focus on “cultivation” 👌

                    Overlord_Venus the human body is very complex thing, but is certain that that our's body is probably the most adaptable thing on earth, during desperate moment the human body can unlock a part of the hidden genetic potential and That result of very interesting change to our body (es our immunity system can work dozens or even hundreds time more efficiently and quickly for short term and that can cause the so called miracle that can cure chronic illness) or you can try to isolate 10-20 generation of humans in extreme environments and observe the effects that have on the human body and the genitic code...

                    Clou_d if the majors nations stop begins stubborn like mule on the subject of human genetic research and experiment maybe cultivation (or something similar) might become true

                      DaoBart yes I thought so, may be by meditation we can advance our self.

                        I think it exist, it just different with from what we read on novels. I believe it must be the cultivation of mind. Like reaching the point where you don't tied with wordly desire.

                        Its' gotten to the point where cultivators like me are scared, however some athletes are low level cultivators.

                        It's but most people consider them wastes. People with no drive.
                        I mean guns are everywhere, and its not like in the novels were people have sword Q and stuff.

                        its more like we just live far longer, but only really around 300 years, or so I have heard of a few cases saying 500 years.

                        Don't worry if you want to become a fighter, or something like that your fine.

                        Most people like me, become football stars or something along those lines. Look for "Clutch," but not star players.

                        Why can I post this, because only a few will trust me, so its not a big deal...

                          Pff, this fish has long stepped in the realms of godhood. You feeble humans advancement in cultivation is nothing compared to our great submarine race. Greats figures like Junior Sister Levi-tan and those jerks Xenomorphs are quite known even in the human world.

                            No. The material world is all that exists. People are limited by the inherent bounds of physics, chemistry, and biology, and as a result self-actualization is nothing more than a refining and streamlining of chemical processes that produce the emergent phenomena we experience as consciousness.

                            Meditation is the deliberate stimulation and inhibition of various neurochemical processes in the brain that result in various state-changes in consciousness. Repeat this habit frequently enough, and it will be adopted by the biology of your body as the new default setting, which can result in a different set of biological results such as greater focus, creativity, energy, etc. But, this only happens within those same set limitations I mentioned previously.

                            That's all. There are no magical powers you can get by meditating enough. You cannot "ascend". You are still the same flawed human self you've always been. You just happen to be a slightly better person.

                            And in case you're wondering, I say this as someone who actively practices old-school ceremonial magick and mediates for an hour or more each day. It's all just self-improvement ritual meant to speak to the sub-conscious. Nothing more.

                              Clowniac You are wrong because then the ability to create life would be easy. I believe in the non-matter world. I wish that an apocalyptic surge would arrive and invoke true human potential. Because a dolphin that can access more brain power than man has unique abilities, what could we evolve into if given access. To control 100% of our brain. To grow our body to be worthy of the power. To evolve into the perfect being, perhaps God saw. He'll maybe the fruit of knowledge sealed us/weakened us. One day we will break the shackles that bind us.

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                                DaoBart maybe there is cultivator or maybe not. Maybe sometime in earth there's a cultivator and maybe there are a lot of them. And i think why we dont even have a single cultivator today is because if everyone become strong, the world will get chaotic everywhere you will see fightings killings just to get some precious treasure to cultivate. Hays if i will given a chance to cultivate and become immortal and given a chance to have superpower i will travel the universe or watch the whole world peacefully.
                                Maybe those genius cultivator in the past is already numb to chaotic fighting for power so they just burn all the files about cultivation.
                                What will you do if you have the chance to cultivate? What is your goal in the future if you become immortal? Are you going to rule the world or boast your power to world so that everyone will know your name?
                                Thats everything that keeps running on my mind when i think someday i will be given a chance to cultivate and become stronger and become immortal. Ahh! A wish that out of reach

                                  DaoBart maybe there is cultivator or maybe not. Maybe sometime in earth there's a cultivator and maybe there are a lot of them. And i think why we dont even have a single cultivator today is because if everyone become strong, the world will get chaotic everywhere you will see fightings killings just to get some precious treasure to cultivate. Hays if i will given a chance to cultivate and become immortal and given a chance to have superpower i will travel the universe or watch the whole world peacefully.
                                  Maybe those genius cultivator in the past is already numb to chaotic fighting for power so they just burn all the files about cultivation.
                                  What will you do if you have the chance to cultivate? What is your goal in the future if you become immortal? Are you going to rule the world or boast your power to world so that everyone will know your name?
                                  Thats everything that keeps running on my mind when i think someday i will be given a chance to cultivate and become stronger and become immortal. Ahh! A wish that out of reach

                                    It is possible through training to improve the skills of community, understanding of people, this is achieved by methods - special psychology. You can find out how and how they live by the signs of people, their behavior, conversation, folds in their arms, legs.

                                    By studying Zen practice - you can learn to hear, see, perceive the world better by 30-40-60 percent more than an ordinary person.

                                    Studying Chan Buddhism, breathing exercises, gypsies, wushu, martial arts, aikido, karate, find out how much stronger a person can become, not only in terms of muscles, but also mental strength.

                                    By studying the integral yoga and methods of Cardos Castaneda, you can learn to control the subconscious.

                                    But a person cannot fly on a sword. He will not be able to consume energy from jade.

                                    By studying Tibetan, Persian, Indian folk medicine, you can find out how various medicinal plants, roots, fruits, berries, and cooked foods affect a person. How their interaction changes properties sometimes they become poison and sometimes medicine.

                                    By studying acupuncture, you can better understand how certain points of a person work, in singing nerve endings to activate certain zones.

                                    That is, from the point of view of cultivation, increasing human capabilities, expanding them like muscles, the ability to use fist fighting techniques, have a strong will, a strong spirit, be able to understand people, and manipulate them. Yes it is possible. What an example, Kipling’s novel "Kim", the actions of special services, ascetics of the monks in India and China.

                                    But from the point of view of cultivation, we have some kind of superpower, this is not possible. The cultivator will not be able to live 500 years, will not be able to fly, will not be able to extract power from stones, etc.

                                    Though this old one isn't very knowledgeable, the few fragments I have been able to piece together about the truth of our world, I shall share with you.

                                    In essence, what is a cultivator? Someone strong? Someone who masters an art? Someone beyond human bounds? Someone deity like? Or maybe someone bound for greatness on a treacherous journey? Though close, a cultivator are those who seek the higher plane. The world above ours so to say.

                                    In what we call earth there are restrictions to what the human body is capable of, placed there by those who envy our innate ability to grow exponentially with no borders. Eons ago, humans stood toe to toe with the gods, demonic beasts, and all creatures of myth. Yet, when we were at our greatest, the pillar of humanity tumbled. One by one, the powerful and influential individuals who guided and protected our way of living soon vanished. Some records speak of a powerful existence completely new to earth, landing and causing havoc everywhere. It took every powerful cultivator in all realms, gods, demonic beasts, humans, and mythical creatures to subdue it.

                                    With the powerful gone, the world entered an age of endless war. each fighting for superiority, the fragile balance between the realms broken. As there is not much about this time period, I have chosen to name it Era of Discord. It was then, during that period of chaos and death, that the light came to reveal the origins of the aberrant freak of a creature. Humans, with their unquenchable thirst for knowledge and understanding of the world and all it secrets, sent out a powerful signal to reach even the furthest tips of space. The creature in turn responded and came upon earth.

                                    Furious and scared, all the realms agreed to a mutual pact, to seal each realm off from the other and, unbeknownst to the humans, to seal the power of humans. Having no precedent on the matter, the ritual to seal off the human's ability to cultivate was incomplete.

                                    At first there was only drastic decrease in cultivators but slowly, the techniques and teachings were lost to history. Fading from the books as our age of prosperity, I have named it the Forgotten Era. Now, there is very little interactions of the realms in our modern day era. Sure, records show that there were some cases in the past. Joan of Arc, Oda Nobunaga, Jack the Ripper, Cleopatra, Julius Caeser, etc in which humans and the other realms interacted but, there wasn't a lot. One noteworthy individual though was Albert Einstein. On the brink of touching the signal used to call the abnormal creature, the other realms interfered and gave him an untimely death.

                                    In the modern day, the way of cultivation has become lost, only the most ordinary techniques surviving. Yet, the seal on humans remain incomplete. There are some who are able to surpass our common understanding of human ability and barely scrape into the domain of cultivation but, it is not impossible! Take the elders on the forums as an example, though hidden and sometimes lurkers, each has a profound essence of cultivation.

                                    Now, I shall return to lurking. You may choose to ignore or heed my words, it makes no difference in the flow of our world. Eventually the signal shall be touched once again, the creatures shall return, and we shall once again experience our Era of Discord, the only thing that matters is, will you be prepared?

                                    Honestly, even I don't know what I just wrote but it was a lot of fun so I hope you enjoyed it!

                                      Yuyumamoru That really sounds like a description for a web novel it was very fun to read though. Intresting story of how humanity was at the beginning. Would be awesome if it were real and even greater if some cultivation manuels was suddenly found but that is just wishful thinking.

                                        Rak0 Ooh! I'd be thrilled to see that happen. Just let me know, I'd love to read it.

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                                          Yuyumamoru Just need to decide where to place you. Either in my dark novel I'm working one. Or maybe one of my other works. Right now I see you one of the following. Drunkard, mentor, random encounter, sholar/con man. Or or I could write whole story based on your concept. I may just write a story I already have an idea in mind.

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