Dudu_the_3rd This "feature" has actually been requested by several others already. Let's see if WN accepts that feedback and implements it for the sake of their esteemed customers.
Privileged chapters
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CKtalon
If the privilege is purchased, let’s say the 50chapters ahead, does that mean I do not get anymore new chapters til a month later?
Also, does privilege mean that readers of translated novels do not get mass releases for novels anymore, so only original contracted novels get mass releases every TGIF?
man oh man..... i only seem to keep coming back here whenever something happens.... its usually something that sparks some serious debates... at this point im just here to learn how many different ways that QI will use to milk money off this site... heck im not even here to read anymore, its becoming something to learn from at this point
I Will copy this here...
Why webnovel simply implements a system that the author or translator has the ability to put their novels blocked but must meet certain requirements. Obviously author/translator will get 50% of the profit.
This system can have various option:
1) Continue with the current system using spirit stones to read chapters; (if you want to buy SS when you don't have it)
2) The other would be to use the current system of privileges to read advanced chapters but not with the current price they are offering; (but most guaranty that every month translator/author will have stockpiled. I don't like this system but there are crazy readers that like to read ahead)
3) The other system would be elite paying a monthly to read for a whole month or even year;
4) The other option would be that webnovel sell to users the book in paper but by volume.(I mean like those in Amason)
We know that some novels here have more than 1000+ chapters(translate novel) and are divided into volumes.
Why not divide the stories into books and sell them with covers at a comfortable price. Of course, all these systems must guarantee the quality of the service; as the quality of the novel.
The author and translator can benefit with those option I think...
I listed those systems but to be integrated with one whole system and you choose the option you want.
Sorry for the bad English.
Piokilek Well... actually you did defend it. Even saying as a professional author that your readers would gladly pay for this privilege besides the gifts you recieve and the price of your normal chapters. So I ask you. As a contracted author to webnovel. Would you withhold 50+ chapters instead of releasing them for your readers in order to stockpile enough chapters to participate in the privilege system if given the opportunity? Of given that opportunity would it not interfere in your release rate or bonus chapters? As an author contracted to webnovel do you believe is really a privilege to the readers to pay 10x the value of a normal chapter to know the title and have the possibility to unlock a chapter? Are you defending this system because you think it is not a scam or because as a contracted author you hope one day get to this system and have the opportunity to earn the equivalent of 10x the actual price of your novel chapters since as a author and not a translator part of that would go to you?
CKtalon does this point #4 mean if i am currently on ch 50 and the novel has already released 1006ch out of which premium starts at 150. And previlage shows 50 stockpiled ch max and 5 minimum. So if i choose the one with minimum and then unlock 1 ch then the ch from 150 to 1006 will also be unlocked freely as they were a part of regularly scheduled chapters?
krustynobb with that much ss, u shouldn't pay again to unlock. i guess it's better to wait. this idea was kinda great but turned stupid after seeing this.
And now regular daily chapter for Supreme Uprising is still behind privilege.
People seems to be forgetting the price of these books. Word shaking novels and book cost way less than a loti of shit that it is sold on this app.
but even if it is the best, i don't uderstand why should i pay hunderds of bucks for a single book, even if wonderful when there are other wonderful books that i can read and are not related to qidian.
And BTW....to me, these system are literally a daylight theft, so don't start talking about pirate sites.
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL Yeah right! Like, we can stockpile 4000 ss without money! Heh!
Snapplemonkey Some/all of the authors/translators might not even get notified before Webnovel implemented the idea. Maybe they pocketed ALL the differences!
redcats Some of the authors/translators stockpile chapters and release them regularly just in case they have an emergency and can't write/translate. Webnovel didn't notified them at all (at least some of them) and just released the stockpiled chapters for a premium. Webnovel not only breaks the trust of the reader (or whatever's left of it before this idiocy), but also the writer/translator's.
CKtalon it's not the problem of paying more to read before others. It's that the readers that want to read before others have to pay twice: the hyperinflated chapter price, then the regular chapter price, i.e. pays 250 ss for 5 advanced chapters, then another 8-10 ss (usual price) for each chapter before you can read the contents at all. In total you'll have to pay 58-60 ss/ advanced chapter instead of the promised 50 ss/ advanced chapter (even this price is already mind-boggling.). No wonder people are mad, this is a Fraud!
Dudu_the_3rd Yeah it got my hopes up when i saw 800 chapters in Daily life of Immortal King but seeing it really struck a nerve, like a stain on the screen that I can't wipe off... I really want it to be gone
itsumademo i agree. This privileged thing is worse than the elite subscription
is there a way to hide privilege hidden chapters from appearing as "unread" on my app. I only want to be aware of chapters I'm actually able to read, not stuff locked behind a privilege wall...
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL What an asshole.
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One can see Webnovel's quality from the new novels they chose to introduce into the platform. More often than not, it's Crap. The platform is swamped with them by the title-full. Some stories I tested were so bad that I wonder how they got the rating as well as the recommendation. The standard is so low that your story would have to be such an utter crap to be below 4 stars and not in the recommendation tab.
I'd trust WuxiaWorld way, way above Webnovel if I'm in the mood for some good reads. Way easier to find quality stories and translations. Wuxia is like a diamond mine, you can find the one you like if you try. Their editors and translators actually vetted the stories. Webnovel, on the other hand, is like scouring through a garbage pile. Maybe you'll find some promising scraps, but the rest were worse than crap.
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I don't get this "privilege" crap about 25 or 50 chapters in advance but I read enough to get that it is basically:
1. you pay bulk SS to unlock the LIST of LOCKED chapters
2. you pay MORE SS to unlocked those chapters in those list
in basic understanding, the current so-called "Privilege" system is akin to you coming into a restaurant and having to PAY just to BE GIVEN THE MENU. THAT'S a problem.
Honestly, I don't care about that. I'm not interested in advance chapters, daily release is where I got my fun. My PROBLEM however is when even daily chapter got LOCKED behind that "privilege", THAT'S a problem. That's a fcked up system that SERIOUSLY undermined the readers.
I get that you want to pay the translators (despite the fact that MOST -not all-of the novels' Raw in this place are free to read at the original source), I'm fine with that, they did the work. This however, is NOT how it should be done. Hefty monthly subscription to read any novel and chapters in the server? That's a deal. Paying a few for each chapter release? I can live with that. Paying bulk to unlock multiple chapters in advance to read? Sure. Paying Hefty amount JUST to open the LIST of chapters to read? That's scam and a crime that can be judged by law of most country with internet fair use regulation.
I'm suggesting this to be fixed, otherwise this website WILL be facing multiple lawsuit from the readers who lived in those countries.
Piokilek Look, I don't have problem with paying in bulk to READ advanced chapters but it comes with the provision that when I pay it in bulk, I want those chapters UNLOCKED and READY TO READ. Spending close to 200 USD only to be GIVEN THE MENU is NOT my idea of a worthy spending.
Imagine you going to restaurant whose food are $10 - 20 at most but you have to pay a whooping $100 just TO BE GIVEN THE MENU. I'm pretty sure, you'll just walk out of the restaurant, never to return and most likely even REPORT them law enforement for fraud. yet THAT is EXACTLY what happens here and the "YOU" in that example are the READERS.
Its double pay for temporary advantage and you still need to unlock the locked chapters. Corporation exploitation at its finest :(
@WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL out here scamming their consumers again. Nothing new but still makes my blood boil
Just compare wuxiaworld patreon with this this system...and i think i dont mind waste more money in ww patreon than this qidian i mean hey at least i paid for advance chp without pay to unlock the chp again lmao
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Btw i still didnt get that new system(the privileged chp)
Nvm :im still use the old ver lmao...cuz i know new ver qidian app will always have
1.bug
2.new system
Im glad i didnt update the app
If I go to a store and buy a book it’s $20-30 and in a hardback form. I understand word count and the time it takes to do it. But again there are a lot of redundancies in a lot of the translated novels. Why can’t Webnovel just charge a flat fee for every book you want to read? If I bought the Harry Potter series right now as a set on Amazon it’s $55 dollars. And you have an actual book. @CKtalon you’re telling me that you think this is fair market value? I have no problems paying for books and or services rendered. But to tell me that this system is legit or even fair is totally a scam. If you made every 100 chapters $5 bucks even for a 2000 chapter book is $100. I understand the need to pay translators I truly believe they should be paid but how much of the money is currently going to them? The authors need to be paid too but how much is going to them? How much is webnovel taking off the bottom line. You’re not transparent in this. You are just stating prices without divulging what percentage goes to who. You want to support the authors and translators but nothing shows how much each of them are making off of a translated novel. The SS we use and the total amount of SS are not stated but you show how many power stones are used for votes? We as readers would like to see how much a novel makes is SS. Give a breakdown and show us you’re not being greedy. You can put up all this info up on the page. @WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL translators say they are not making money or less money but it doesn’t show what they make monthly? Now we all know you won’t divulge this information. I would love to see a reply to this one from webnovel. Let’s see how first class and country clubs can respond to this. Because if most of the money were truly going to authors and translators I’d be surprised.
krustynobb Really? Then this is not worth it.. Anyway, we pay per chapter, so we should not have to pay more just to access a stockpile of chapters, which we still need to pay individually for..
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Nizze
Actually @Piokilek hasn't use privilege system in his novels, at least until now.
On the other hand, I really can't get demanding as much as 4000 ss per month. If you make it this expensive, just make it permanent. Not mentioning that it would work in sync with subscription, but to make it work you would have to look at things in long term perspective.
And @CKtalon is truly WN employee, as soon as arguments get uncomfortable he decides to simply ignore everything.
My SS burned in vain to unlock 1 page of the latest chapter in Pet King
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@WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL i would like a refund on the privilege chapters I’ve bought. Why would charge us 500-4000 stones and then make us pay again to unlock the chapters we payed for. Not acceptable! You said when we get the privilege chapters it says unlocks the chapters why do we still get charge. This is fraud because this is not what you described or advertise, refund us back our money.
chili047 you did read the About Privileges page? It said you pay to get the privilege to read ahead, you still needed to unlock the chapters. Not read ahead and the chapters automatically unlocked.
You could wait as normal otherwise.
This is stupid you pay for 50 adv chapter and you still need to fking pay those 50 chapter again in order for you to read. i think i will just go fking read raw and make my own fking sentence. sorry for my bad english and fuck you webnovel.
Here in Germany it would fall under Scam even if it was a mistake in the Explanation, in Consumer Rights with high punishment.
OverseerRose
Wohoo I am not the only german!
Can we ask the consumer center about this?
Maybe they can influence something for a central regulation.
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Not only this https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/online_fraud_2017.pdf
We can even go and let this http://hschuster.userweb.mwn.de/Gesetze%20pdf/DS-GVO.pdf handle them.
Cause GDPR is not only for EU it is also for Companys/Websites outside the EU.
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OverseerRose there wasn't a mistake. People just didn't read the Rules thoroughly. Even with the old one it was stated you need to Unlock the chapters.
The old Rules said "After purchasing Privileges, readers can UNLOCK stockpiled chapters" I highlighted the word unlock personally for emphasis.
That may be it but this practice falls under Fraud to pay to pay again here in Germany.
Also alone the GDPR in the EU is very harsh when you look into the GDPR here it is full of holes and the entire Website could get sued EU wide also blocked for the entire EU.
Article 3, Paragraph 2.
EU GDPR
"Territorial scope"
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junnakurokawa The old version of the rules were ambiguous and could be misleading. Not every reader here is a native English speaker (heck, sometimes the original authors/translators/editors can't even get it right), so you can't expect these people to be able to read between the fine lines. It's WN's responsibility to make this clear to their customers. Stop defending the old rules, you're just victim blaming and it won't give WN the incentives to improve their service and do better.
OverseerRose you pay for the PRIVILEGE to see the chapters. Then you UNLOCK the chapters as normal.
Think of it as a VIP status in games. You still need to pay for stuff buy the fact is, you have access to certain Privileges.
There really wasn't a mistake. It's just two wholly different things.
Cantiara do they? Or they did not read the Rules at all since that's what I'm seeing in the novels I'm reading.
Level of English comprehension needed for that bit was not high. And while the new clarification is better, it wasn't ambiguous.
The old Rules said "After purchasing Privileges, readers can unlock stockpiled chapters". Which part of "can unlock" is unclear?