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Kunkka you have to use some money to pay for premium account

N0xiety Displeasure??? What displeasure??? Complaing and demanding just because premiums aren't free and China is rich???

HugeJin Its just like a free tasted of a food, once you get a bite and want some more, well buying the product is your choice to have more it. so does the qidian economy.

N0xiety its not really a mess business for QI But seeing the different use of their novels, one that you can still read their novel by waiting or inviting and us SS but more investing your patience than your money and you deserve that, but If you want to support and have more consideration for the translator now you have the perfect conscience to yourself that your not just helping yourself to satisfy your basic sense of life but also the life of the QI workers.. job well done.

Arch Ok i understand. I'm just afraid that the system will eventually turn into complete paywall like in china. I will see how the freemium system works in the coming days and hopefully it won't turn into complete paywall in the future...

Yi_Wan Yep. They somehow did it very fast. Hope that qi will improve.

N0xiety Why are you even humouring these idiots that are acting like paid actors. Your Rant isn't gonna change a thing, just accept it!! we just need to stop reading on this site..... and pirate the chapters or wait till they launch the novel on Kindle!!As that's the only way they are going to get money from me!!

N0xiety dont worry, QI knows how to work properly, they just know what is better for readers like us. for more conveniency.

N0xiety If they succeed with this premium, then such paywalls will never happen. If they don't, they'll just quit the market. If they force a paywall, that'll just be a stupid move, and I think as experts of business in China, they won't make a move where they lose 90 percent of their readers and earn literally nothing from the remaining die hard fans.

It's a matter business logic. They understand that they will lose tons of fucking readers if they put up a real paywall, and instead of earning money, they will lose even more. SO MUCH MORE that they will quit the market sooner than later. That's why they created an alternative where both paying readers and non-paying readers can remain, while they somehow barely get money and save themselves from operating at a loss.

Kunkka This qidian's update is really ridiculous :) SS will eventually run out.

Having a premium with paywalled (SS) 10 chapters ahead... well its ok I guess, if you want to read ahead then pay, but...

If they slow down the releases to support this then, thats a big no-no. They can easily keep the 10 chapters ahead for those that want to read the first, and still release in normal format, but we will see what the greed is later.

Darlarren SS expire after 3 months
At the current rate of SS/day it doesn't matter how many do you have, eventually not only it will not be enough but if you read about 3+ novels that have daily release and are premium you won't be able to do it for free

PeytyWap Well, it's up to you. You can earn SS in many ways dude. It's up to you on how can you make the best use of it

Rokuman_24 It will translate into a paywall, eventually :))

GoGo Take a moment, work that brain, and picture this:
1. Qidian failed to make money. As a result, Webnovel.com is shut down.
2. Translators and editors here are paid to work on the novels they work on. When QI shuts down, a huge amount of these translators and editors will not even bother staying as fan translators.
3. As a result, lots of novels will be dropped. At that point, there won’t even be anything for you to pirate. NOTHING. Only the few popular novels will stay and survive on patreon.

It’s in everyone’s interest that they actually start making profit with this new premium model. If not, it will only result in QI shutting down or even harsher type of paywall. I bet you aren’t gonna be so happy about that if that happened.

Itachi2K3 Let me just respond to the original before I respond the rest of the folks in the thread. I tried to explain this previously to some idiot on the original qidian post. For me I complain because I think Qidian needs to make good on ensuring it's readers are ensured. You know I am a person who appreciates good customer service more so than the service itself. So Qidian can be crappy, but only when they have a dedicated mindset, so dedicated that I can feel that no matter my problem they will fix it for me then I can call them a company worth putting money into. They do not have an official way to log bugs, they do not have an official FAQ for new users, they do not have any sort of monitoring in place that makes anyone feel like they are heard. What they have is a couple randoms on the forums and in discord who may or may not answer your question, acknowledge your concern or help you out. That to do me does not sound like something solid, do they need money for that kind of service I don't know, but I know one thing no company in america survives very long without good customer support. Especially when it comes to money, you don't leave that stuff up to chance. I don't like that Qidian is taking these steps without ensuring the readers that their money is safe, that when you pay for items on qidian whatever they are, that qidian will have your side, I don't feel that trust. It's bad enough I can barely trust that they will give me a quality translation and thats the merchandise they are selling!! LMAO

N0xiety Yeah, you were always worried about this, I don't think it will be that dramatic.

Arch Problem with Qidian though, is they are so unprofessional it's literally off putting. I would never buy anything from them until they fix translations quality, support mechanism, release info and more. Most companies love to sing of their new developments before they hit the market, love to boast about how customer friendly they are, Qidian has yet to make anything clear except they want money. They have not made any promises to fix anything, they have not made any assurances that money will not be lost, I am not 100% sure I have seem a Terms of Use policy or any of that normal stuff that companies have when they want you to pay money. So calling them a company feels like a stretch to me, cause evn smaller companies know that when you introduce money it is better to have these sorts of policies and understanding between customer and seller but I don't see much of that going on, maybe they only do that when you actually pay for something? It just does not seem legit, it feels like we are doing under the table dealings.

Hyper_pumpkin We can demand whatever we want when we are consumers, thats the law of the world, we can complain however we want because we have the money that you want. Qidian seems to always think they are in control of the money, but they are not, we are. Do not give people power that they shouldn't have that's how you end up as a slave. If china was so rich they wouldn't have abandoned malls and so many poor people still planting rice out in the boonies.

GoGo LMAO

Limostn Thats a little dramatic, people are translators because they like it obviously and not just for the money cause imo it's obviously a dead end job if they need to ask people for donations(just saying). And you are way outrageous, Qidian only has chinese novels by Qidian so there will always be novels out there don't kid yourself just cause Qidian changed it's name to Webnovel for international does not make it a spokesperson for all translated novels lmao.