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Gourmet_DAO haha. I'll look into it but yeah you got the idea for one story. XD I would love to pick your brain some time.
Gourmet_DAO haha. I'll look into it but yeah you got the idea for one story. XD I would love to pick your brain some time.
I'm taking a cliche approach towards black market generalizations, child trafficking, and the fluidity of economic commerce from the realm of third party contributions, inspired, by mafia's involvement during the war
I have in short a philosophy of story telling. So I tend to look at everything through the eyes of a reader and observer. So the more I experience, read, see, observe, learn, feel, then the more I'm able to contribute to my text. But at the end of it I don't really expect anyone to read it. It's just that I like to have a collection of worlds within reach. And maybe strike a few readers emotions along the way. But I still have a long way to go. And these two story are just a fun side project which I dont care if anyone sees. Hence publishing here. Also hopefully mature as a writer with this experience. I have a style and approach set, but I still have several kinks I need to work out in my writing. I'm like a baby turtle taking its first steps into a harsh reality. But fail once fail a thousand times it only matters if you learn from your mistakes and grow
When it comes to writing, the author should stick to what they are comfortable with and only push themselves to write more if they are prepared to stretch their limits.
I'm one of those authors who write 6,000 words a day, 3 chapters a day, for several months now. This isn't the most as I know there are a couple of people who pump out even more words a day.
I can speak from experience that it is extremely difficult to maintain quality standards. I have trained myself to write 1,000 words per hour so I spend 6 hours to write every day. I don't do any proofreading or editing though my English writing skills are good enough that there aren't any grammar or spelling errors. Nonetheless, if you write so much all the time, you definitely won't be able to plan out things as much.
I didn't get to this point immediately, of course. Over the course of 1,5 years since I started writing, I started with an update rate of 2,000 words a day. Then 4,000 words a day. Then 6,000 words a day. Increasing your daily writing volume is a skill that can be trained, but it requires dedication, time and a willingness to work hard to increase it. The novel also has to be able to accommodate it and the author's imagination also has to keep up with the pace.
Not every author has the time to dedicate this much effort into doing such. If they don't have the time or don't feel motivated, it's better to stick to what is sustainable to them. I have seen too many authors break because they tried and failed to push their limits when they weren't ready for it. Listening to reader feedback and responding to their demands is only useful if it benefits the authors.
Is it exhausting? Yes. But no more so than a full-time job. The earnings I've received for writing my novel this way has made it worth it for me to write in this style and at this pace. The novels that Webnovel offers are different from published books. They don't have the best quality, but they leave you coming back for more every day.
Many authors are amateurs and don't have a lot of writing experience and that reflects in their quality of their work and their update rate. If they were pros, they would have probably brought their novels to a publishing house or Amazon instead. Webnovel offers a lower barrier to entry for authors and while there are many works that are disappointing, the charm of this platform is that there is always a gem in the rough or a particular flavor that you like from the mass of novels on offer.
Ultimately, writing is a passion and the best stories are written if the author is on fire. I write a lot of words a day, but I enjoy it and that keeps me going day after day without any depression or mood swings. Authors should pay more attention to their mental and physical well being and their financial situation to decide how much they want to write. Just responding to pure user feedback is not always healthy because usually the loudest and most extreme voices are amplified in the comments and reviews.
mianlover oh... I'll consider this as a compliment, so thank you!
Exlor Are you writing as a full-time job or are you writing in addition to any full-time (or part-time) job you already have/in addition to being a student? Because it's tough for most people to spend 6 hours a day writing when they have a 9-5 job, or are a student with classes, homework and things to study. And I'm a student with a part-time job on top of that, so spending 6 hours a day to churn out 6,000 words is just not practical or feasible for me.
Tomoyuki yeah, thanks. For a couple of weeks, I started timing my writing and forced myself to go to sleep early (7hrs of sleep), I go out for walks and meet friends. Screen addiction is not healthy. Please, dear authors, take care of yourselves.
Helena_Seryma That's great!
At the moment I do it full time and so of course I have the time to dedicate that much time each day on writing. If you are already studying or working, then of course you should rightfully treat it as a hobby, side job, extra activity or whatever put firm limits on how much time you spend on writing. Spending six hours a day on writing when you already have an existing full-time job or study is insane.
The only other thing that I can say is that readers aren't interested in your own circumstances. Like audiences of a theater, they only see a carefully crafted show. They don't see what happens outside the performance date and off the stage and how much effort the actors put into practicing and mastering their performances.
This is the nature of art and the entertainment business. Readers are only presented with a finished product that is the culmination of our hard work. It is unfair to make a comparison between a novel written by someone who writes fulltime to a novel written by someone who is writing part-time. Yet readers don't know any better or don't care and make those comparisons anyway. This is the reality all authors have to live with and it is best not to listen to these kinds of voices at all.
All I can say is that passion and enjoyment are vital to sustain writing in the long term. Write as much as you enjoy and your free time allows and no more if you want to keep it up for years. Writing is not a race nor a competition to be the fastest writer or the best earner, though all the comparisons and jostling for power stones something make it seem like it sometimes.
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL I am impressed with all of the authors work! Why rush good content! I would hate to ask for more. I would hate to force more content and cause writers block/ fatigue/carpal tunnel. Let them evolve their stories naturally. Everyone wants instant gradification. There is a beauty in being patient!
WEBNOVEL_OFFICIAL I am impressed with all of the authors work! Why rush good content! I would hate to ask for more. I would hate to force more content and cause writers block/ fatigue/carpal tunnel. Let them evolve their stories naturally. Everyone wants instant gradification. There is a beauty in being patient!
I admit it, I'm one of such readers you made a definition of. But I already stopped being like that after I became an author.
At first, I thought writing stories, plots, scenes, etc. is easy, but it's not. As an author (even not a famous one), it's hard to squeeze outputs out of our minds; for example, I'm imagining a certain scene in the book that I'm writing, but I need to thresh out the feelings, emotions, and aura that the scenery is emitting in my mind, which is actually very hard considering I'm still struggling to do that until today. What more in writing a whole chapter? What more if you have studies and extracurricular activities in your school that you have to accomplish by the end of this week?
To all readers out there, if you're experiencing the pressure being on a cliffhanger to your favorite story then it goes paused for a week, the pressure on us authors would more or less twice as that.
I'm not scolding you guys, I'm just expressing my feelings about this issue, because I've also been like you.
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Sounds like we've arrived to an understanding with this thread? That is to say, people write and people read. So, cordial respect is the ask from both sides of the story coin.
Mainaka although i do agree with this, you're slightly wrong. martin is different. the process of publishing a book physically is different. First the draft, let's rather assume that he took 30 months for the draft.
to not offend anybody, they have to edit and revise which can take a really long time. and usually not just once. but i'm not sure with george r.r. martin, after all, he's one of the most famous authors out there. maybe one revision is enough for him.
Gourmet_DAO silk road... ;-; brings back my of memories of my failing grade on social science
yaoyueyi Quoting Dilbert, what the customer (reader) really wants is top quality product for free. I would add that readers would want all chapters till the end, right now.
I bet the one asking for four chapters a day was already (mentally) making a concession.
With all this I mean that that's a sign the reader is really enjoing the story, which is good for the author.
I would also advice author to relax and don't take those demands too seriously, just pretend to listen to them (us) and do what you can. Author should worry if the readers stop caring and complaining about how many chapters they get a month.
Elise_Elleneth Next is, I noticed that (some or more) readers complain a lot (as said above) about characters or the story they wanted to flow as they wanted.
That is what really worries me as a reader and I really hope you authors don't listen to this kind of complains. I see that a lot as a basis for bad reviews on NU and this just reflects the reader immaturity. You should only listen on these kind of issues, to a professional editor (if you have one)
Luiz_H Hi! When it comes to this, I saw that it's not only we contracted authors are pressurized... but also those new ones that have potential. But as they could see what stories are click too many readers, some will follow and some choose to drop their novel.
I must say, I just make myself flexible to these outcomes and survive in this career I choose for myself.
I believe both (readers and authors) should enjoy... Us to write, and them; read something we wrote passionately. We do our best to create something the readers would love, at the same time, write more to release regular updates. Unless reality will hit us hard with problems (like me, but forcing to release daily updates).
In this matter, I believe we all learn something; from both sides. From then on, we began understanding each other more.
Reinesse Here everyone has their own preferences, mindset, their interests, I like the history of the Silk Road, trade, spies, the Big Game. And someone likes romance, fantasy.
It is all the more interesting to live in the world, meeting different people and learning something new for yourself!
Readers in general can be very generous and understanding towards their favorite authors but that is on the premise that authors properly inform their readers about decisions, events, reasons etc. but most important is that they are honest towards their readers. For instance if you promise 5 chapters a week and don't make it than don't just gloss over it and post the next chapter but properly explain why you were forced to miss your promise. There is always a good reason but if you don't give that information to your readers than to a reader all that they know is that this author has missed a promise (and if that happens often some readers will label that author as unreliable and start treating that author with less respect). My point is that some disrespectful messages can be avoided if the author is honest and clear about what their readers can expect from the author. We're living in the social media age and webnovel.com is a perfect example of a site that heavily relies on social media interaction. The key to social media in general is that readers/followers feel that they have a close relationship to the person they follow and that close relationship is at the same time the reason why people are willing to give money and support others but also the reason why social media can turn toxic. Just think about it, if you have someone who you think you have a relatively close relationship with ignore you or not acknowledge your existence than how does that make you feel? And whenever an author makes a promise and does not keep those promises than your readers are going to feel betrayed. And I realize that it is absurd that some people think like this but this is how social media works. What I noticed is that the people who have the least amount of angry trolls demanding stuff from the person they follow are the people who are very clear on what their followers can expect from them, be generous in the information you give.
And one tip for authors who have trouble with demands for more chapters... don't see those messages as a whip urging you to work harder but see them as encouragement from people who like your work enough to ask for more. This change in perspective is probably a better way to look at these kind of messages from a mental health perspective ;-)
I've seen a lot of argument about "look at the demand for updates as encouragement!! :D"
but tell me how I can look at "MASS RELEASE OR I WILL DROP" or "why are updates so slow??? author stop being lazy!!! other novels are updating twice daily, but you don't even update daily!!!!" or "I like the story but 1 star for updates, it's so slow that I'm going to drop" or "when mass release???????????????" as kind encouragement.
just tell me how.
there's a clear difference between "can't wait until the next chapter!", "hope you update soon!", "thanks for the chapter!! excited for the next one", and pure rudeness.
I think the problem is the fact that the chapters are so expensive and when u buy something expensive you expect good results so if I'm buying a chapter I expect it to be a very good chapter not something that is irrelevant to the story I want to know more about the main characters in the story than the family of the girl or guy we don't like upload more chapters too you can't have us reading the book and only having 1 or 2 chapters come out and the fact that u put a particular day for a mass release but only release 3 chapters that's not a mass release if u say a mass release put in like 10 or more chapters that's a mass release I know it's hard for the authors also but if u say u are going to do it I and every other reader expect you do it
yaoyueyi Those are the ignorant readers. There will always be some of those, because hey, stupid people really do exist. You can take offense at their dumb comments, you can try explaining yourself to them, whatever, but the fact is, they will not get it. They understand stuff only from their level of perception.
All I'm saying is, be selective with your battles. Again, ignore the ignorant ones.
If you can't put up with the 1 or 2 chapters release a day, don't read web novels. Go and buy yourself a finished book.
Because that's just the concept of a web novel, it's like a soap opera where the audience only gets to see one or two episodes daily for many many years. Or like those (Japanese) comics, where you only get to read a volume every month.
I agree that customers should expect good value from the product/service they're purchasing, especially if the said product/service is expensive. But demand that in the form of, for example, the lack or absence of grammar/spelling errors, attractive writing style, etc. You don't get to tell the authors what to write. It's their novel, their story. It's the product of their creative minds.
Imagine people telling George R.R. Martin to write only about Jon Snow and less about Ramsay Bolton just because he's a prick triple dipped in psycho.
hic Dude, most of us don't even charge our chapters. You're reading our stories for free. What do you mean by "expensive"?! A chapter cost 20 to 26 cents for a 2,000 to 2,600 word chapter. That's "expensive"? And what about those writers who don't charge anything and publish their chapters for free? Are we still oblligated to upload more chapters?
You don't like only having 1 or 2 chapters come out a day? Wow...it is this sense of entitlement that annoys quite a lot of the writers. What do you think we are? Writing is not our full time job. We have our real jobs in real life, or we have to study (a lot of us here are students), or we have other real-life commitments that make it difficult for us to write one chapter a day. Do you know how long it takes to write a chapter? 3-4 hours. And you guys read that chapter in a matter of minutes, and think it's not enough. To do a mass release of 3 chapters means that we need to spend 9-12 hours writing a day. And you want 10 or more chapters for mass release. Just how entitled are you?!
So it's better if we don't release 3 chapters on a specific day at all? 5 chapters as a mass release on a specific day isn't enough? It must be 10 (which is pretty much impossible for most writers)? You just want your daily release and us to not say anything about mass releases at all? What nonsense.
I really cant find it in my inbox the letter of adjustment....
Gourmet_DAO nah. i was thinking that i should have known about your novel before we learned about it.
honestly, it's probably true that you learn more through the net rather than school.
Reinesse I will say more, you will learn more knowledge than at school or university, if thousands will improve their education. In particular, just read books. At the university, the actual ones did not say anything about the Silk Road, apart from 2 lectures! I sat in the archives and read more than 450 books of the 16-19th centuries. Here in the books of the 19th century, the whole essence is! Very interesting! How empires prepared, long and carefully for the capture of independent principalities and made their colonies out of them. Pumping out resources from them, but in exchange creating infrastructure, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, postal stations.
The Silk Road was a system of exchanging data, money, technology, new materials, culture, recipes. But the control over traffic, who controlled it on different stretches of the road, for a short period of time, became, according to the modern concept, a multi-billionaire. But for a long time this did not last; their others again captured and killed.
Gourmet_DAO What's the link to your novel again?
Gourmet_DAO you're reading those books like they're thin...
Honestly, I don't really like reading about history. I didn't like studying leaders and stuff or their feats during their rule (which usually shows up and their name are complicated). Though the business topic, cultures, hierarchy? and some kingdom building are totally unboring at all.
Reinesse History seems lifeless only at first glance. And so it is very interesting, of course everyone has their own opinion. But look at the trade routes, bifurcation points, trade and transit hubs of the Silk Road times and look at the map of modern conflicts, wars, they almost coincide. Why? Resources, power, money, desire to control flows ?! Plus, a game of spies and counterintelligence is added. Big Game, empires with neocolonial ambitions.
Small countries act as bargaining chips in the game of large empires. International law? Are you joking? Nobody observes it. The economy comes first.
Justice? It seems to have ceased to exist in the 21st century.
When large empires put small countries on their topographic maps, this was especially true in the 19th century, which meant their early colonization.
Such knowledge is interesting for some, while others are interested in modern gadgets, programming, industrial design. There are no comrades for taste and color, as the Russians say.