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Pleasedeteme i've read it. I don't think that the chapter is worthless. It give the readers clues about new character, whether that character is enemies or not. What kind of problem will rise in the future.. something like that. I don't find anything wrong with it. You don't need to delete it if you don't want to. Just tell that weirdo, you are going to improve yourself and keep getting better. You did your best. But, if you really think that the chapters is not your best and you want to change something inside, you should do it. That is how you improve yourself.

Pleasedeteme i read it again, and i see there are lot of room for more improvement. Would you like for me to do some reviews? I'm not really a pro, but i can help to point out something inside your novel.

Pleasedeteme oh yeah.. i also just found this discussion. I recommend this discussion inside webnovel forum. Search, "Writing tips,tricks and resources". They are discussing about useful writing tips. Go check it out.

AI380

As said above, i was focusing on reasons that stop you from getting new readers.

When a story is bad(and i don't mean the grammar), people will comment/review the webnovel, especially if they are strongly disappointed. The more engaged they are, the harsher their words( Of course there are also stupid mean readers). So basically, if you can't get enough readers, you have to look for things you can easily fix. Because indifference is the worst.

Verb tense consistency is truly easy to fix when you get the trick, same for punctuation issues.

For the novel title, if you're not contracted you can basically rename it the same with (edited) in brackets, or just change a letter or something like that. It has been done more than once, for example for people that wanted to participate to the Spirity Contest.

AI380, i have check your novel, and that lock nice.

But i have to advice for, first change the cover of you novel, and delete the first line of you synopsis. Because when people are seaching novel the first thing they saw is your cover and the first line of your synopsis, if you do that i'm sure you will make more view

Sythcake Oh yeah, being sarcastic means I care about being criticized and I'm overreacting.

I think you're just being nasty for no reason. I don't even know you, but for some reason you've always been heckling me. Is it because you think I'm pro-Webnovel, or my posts just rub you off the wrong way?

Perhaps I should just ignore you from now on.

You know what I think? This is my criteria for posting a chapter or story:

Would I read it myself if I was a reader?

Has it been at least 2 days since I wrote it?

Have I gone through it at least once?

Am i satisfied?

These can dramatically increase quality if you're someone that posts immediately after writing a chapter. Giving time allows the brain to reset, allowing you to spot mistakes that might've gotten past you during the writing process. Also, it enables you to read it more like a reader instead of a writer, since you're more detached the more time passes.

Motivation is a hard wall to pass. There're huge gaps on my updates if one payed attention to my stuff since the beginning, partly due to prior commitments and chronic wrist pain, but mainly due to lack of motivation sine nobody reads my stuff anyway. I started daily again cause of the quarantine, but I can't guarantee if I could continue afterwards cause real life is forcing me to contribute to society. But do I care?

No. Not anymore.

I write for myself. A vanity project so to speak. I don't care if nobody'll read my stuff. So long as the mountain of notes on my phone continue to exist, I'll keep on writing, just to get this ideas off my head.

I guess that's the way I cope with lack of readership. Don't do it for views, do it cause you want to. We all sucked at writing in the beginning, experience will come with practice and massive consumption of quality content. Don't give up just yet.

MokouFriedChicken True!!! Even for me, I write what i have in mind first. Even if that doesn't make any sense, but, as long that the idea is related to the chapter, i will write it. I keep writing until a paragraph is born. Then, i repeat the step, not caring about any grammar problems.

After that, i will start the process of editing. Rewrite, and checking it again. After i posted the chapter, i will read it again as a reader. Only then, will i see my mistakes that i never realized before. Then, i will keep editing it from time to time.

Editing our chapters even though you have already posted it is a good way for us to find our mistake, sticking to the plot, we also won't forget about our own plot because we keep reading the chapter, again and again. It also help keep the motivation going.

For the motivation problem, Pinterest is a good application for us writer to get our motivation back. I've done this a lot and it's working. There are many interesting idea inside, the cool arts, writing prompt , dialogue prompt, skill, fighting and more.

Listening to music also helps a lot. I love to listen to sad song to cry. Then, when i cry and feeling sad, i tried to think of a future plot where i kill someone(inside novel). If i listen to heroic song, i tried to think of when my character will become a hero that save the word, or they are going to war.

I want to recommend a few good singer or dj for motivation purpose.
-SVRCINA
-Besomorph
-Miia
-Hidden Cirizen
-Neoni
-Bahari
These are all just my opinion though. You can use your favourite song too.

Carciphones_02

I too, have a playlist whenever I write. Mostly consists of Persona or other Game OSTs.

maelbarach Yes, that seems like the main issue, I guess I will have to spend some time to redraw that cover page again. And I have deleted that first sentence.

AI380 true!! I agree with maelbarach . I checked your novel earlier and see the cover of your novel. It give me the impression of little kids trying to write romance novel for the first time after being influenced by twilight movie .

It's true that there is a saying that said, "don't judge a book by its cover."

But, the point of the saying clearly shows that many people judge a book by its cover. That is why the saying was created. People keep judging a book by its cover.

Oh, the irony.

GorujoKun telling an author to follow the readers advice is like telling them they get no say in how the story they created goes. Please do not feed half baked comments to someone seriously looking for advice on whether to continue.

Now, to answer the original post, it is entirely up to you whether you want to continue or not. What you need to do is ask yourself do you enjoy writing? Do you enjoy the story? Do you have the time/energy to continue. You should really only consider your personal feelings when it comes right down to it. At the end of the day we writers write for ourselves, to put the stories that are stuck in our heads down in written form to free up brain space for other things. Yes it feels great when readers appreciate and approve of our work but that should never be the goal. Writing for recognition and money is a gamble at best. Just do it for you and make it the best you can for your enjoyment.

GabrielKross It depends. Some advice is useful. Structural criticism is the best kind of criticism, because it's not personal, and it actually points at the underlying problems of the story itself, rather than subjective, emotional feedback.

I'm actually happy for constructive criticism. Like when someone points out, "okay, your transition is pretty bad here, there's not much flow here." Or "what is your character's goal? It doesn't seem clear here." The mechanical issues. "The conflict seems absent" or "the climax seems to be placed at an odd place." Maybe grammar and spelling mistakes. "You have a typo here." "Punctuation is missing here." "Dont flunctuate between present and past tenses."

However, a lot of the criticism or feedback consist of "this character is stupid." "MC is spineless/weak/retarded." Or he's an idiot. Or "story is boring." Or "story is s*." That's not useful at all. I'm not writing a story to pander to your particular taste of super-smart, genius, overpowered protagonists. I'm trying to slowly develop him from weak to strong. Now if I get something on pacing, I am happy. For example, "these scenes seem to drag on" or "the climax feels too rushed" or "the standoff is too slow." However, if your complaints about pacing is "why is he still so weak at chapter 20 (when it's a 500-chapter story)?" that's not about pacing, that's you just wanting a strong protagonist, which is not what my story is about.

You have to learn to filter which is the right and useful advice and which is subjective and overly emotional - usually from readers who get upset because you're not writing the story THEY want to read (the sense of entitlement here is unreal). As I said, usually the most helpful criticism is structural. Because it doesn't get too personal or emotional and actually addresses the underlying problems of the story, not making it all about "how dare you not write the story that I want to read?!".

MokouFriedChicken Nice! I like DMC ost when I write action scenes. BTS is my tunes when I want to bring out the stoic hero attitude.

Carciphones_02 this is how I can tell the writer is either writing off outline or not using one.

Outlines prevent the orphan, random filler.

Carciphones_02 and so, I changed my cover page.

AI380 I know how that feels I really do. It's just that there isn't much you can do about it. All you need to do is write a good story, put it out there and wait. You can do some advertising on social media and other sites but don't expect much.

AI380 I know how that feels I really do. It's just that there isn't much you can do about it. All you need to do is write a good story, put it out there and wait. You can do some advertising on social media and other sites but don't expect much.

AI380 It is an improvement!!! It looks good in my opinion.

But, I think your drawing looks empty in the background. You could added something like a throne room or the vast land and sky.(If you want to) Use first person of view to draw the background.

Starting from the characters, as the background getting farther, everything will look small. It make the space around the characters looks bigger.

The cat's face can also be refined more. But, anything else is good. The colouring, their interaction and their clothes design.

Carciphones_02 I have adjusted the cat face, right now I'm not sure what to add in the background.

Carciphones_02 oops. Sorry I wasn't directing comment to you. Just a general observation.

Cause I've read stories where the writer is free forming. Still a great story, but also leaves me confused. To a story that follows a structure.

Veronica8 No, no!! It's me who should be Sorry. I read it again and realized I'm the one who misunderstanding your meaning!!⟵(๑¯◡¯๑)

:grin:

To be honest, I do not expect to get so many responses in this thread

AI380 we're all in this together!!(high school musical reference)

Sythcake Tomoyuki

Guys. I understand you have your differences, but let's not turn this thread into a verbal match. Last thing we want is to give Yue-bot a reason to lock this thread.

Let's respect the OP here, and their intentions for this thread. There's been some great advice and personal experiences shared. If we keep it objective, all is cool.

Tomoyuki Hell no. I wanna write a novel to make someone rage as hard as that last loser Hahahaha

tigre900 Create a novel so good that your review section gets filled with 1 stars after you delete it out of nowhere.

Now let's not get this thread locked by yue please!

GorujoKun I understand you, my friend.

But, for me, my creations are created deep inside my heart.

Sharing it to others are merely joining you to your protagonist's journey.

Views, Comment, power stone are only worldly possession.

Whether it's famed or not. Creating a story is not just for it to become a famous story, rather it's to enjoy and dedicate yourself to your passion.

To be honest, I check your story and I didn't find problems with it and the grammar was good than mine.

So, you should continue writing, until you really like to make a wonderful novel. Planning is also essential for a good novel. (Although some are also good at writing without planning)

RABBITICOL Even to write it that way takes talent. The guy didn’t have to read it. There was something that compelled him to. It’s like the character in Misery when the author killed off her favorite character.

HonestReviewer Oh thank you!
Yeah I get it, some people want to write just for fun and some people want to write just for the positive fame, and i completely understand them and they should do what's appropriate whenever it's one approach or the other.
And about that, yes I did grammar and spelling lookup before I submitted, it is much more efficient than having to look again at the novel so yeah...

Pleasedeteme Why should I be worried about them not going? Where should they go? If they stay here forever won’t that be an imprint of myself left behind when I die? Isn’t that the point?

AI380 Hey I'm not sure if this will help at all, but I think that the synopsis you have written could probably be attributed to lower views. It's really long, like a bit too long. If after the first paragraph I'm not hooked, I just won't want to read the book. Fine tune the synopsis and then see if you get more views, hope I'm of help!