Welcome everyone to Authors and Readers Thoughts! This group was created from a spark of trying to establish a welcoming and friendly atmosphere for Authors and Readers. To clarify, most readers are Authors and vice versa and that's ok. We have a lot to learn from each other and implement on our daily bases with our writing skills and reviewing progress.

As I said, I am or we are moving forward in creating a peaceful relationship by interacting with each other concerning our flaws i.e. any thought we want to share concerning Authors' updates or readers' reviews so that, we could unite and seek for a better solution to them will be of help to someone (Author or not).

I for one as an Author and reader know some readers want to share their troubles and advise Authors on certain things they don't recognize or ignore. We've used several techniques of reaching out to our Authors but failed in the process, either because we didn't use the right approach or our Authors misunderstood our words. So, we want to be able to say those things we were not given the chance to say but more beautifully and respectfully.

On the other side, Authors want to reach out to readers in general and question them about certain strange things like what could cause readers to read a book till the end and go to the extent of adding to their library yet, don't leave a review, and all the like.

To finalize, this platform is meant to share our thoughts concerning either describing Authors' flaws or readers' reproach. Whatever thing that could build us positively and make us respectful within ourselves not only here but society as a whole.

Rules:
My rules or everyone's rule for the better building of this community is to talk politely when approaching an individual, or individuals concerning the subjects specified above. No vulgar words or insults are allowed. If by any means, there is a tense environment between you and someone here, I recommend you take a break or get yourself distracted to keep you from uttering something impolite or painful. I know it's not easy sometimes but try to do it for your good and that of others.

We are family here and must learn to understand one another. If you want to correct anyone, do it with love. Don't judge or embarrass them. Yes, they may be wrong and you are right but it may not be intentional and even if it was, you digging in negatively will not make you any different from them.

Please, patiently wait for a reply and if no one does, don't cause a scandal. Some questions take time to digest and give out a presentable response. And please, we all should try to give answers to questions if we can. if not, don't. At that moment, your silence will be far preferable than a knot to tie (Not a good one though).

Again, let everyone try their possible best not to share or advertise the link to their books or whatsoever. I repeat... it is not allowed! if someone asks you about your book, simply reply without making so much advertisement. If that person wants to know more, you could look for somewhere else to expatiate your discussion. Trust me guys you and I know if we implement that here, there will be many misbehaviors and strive.

We are looking forward to an outstanding community so, we should by ourselves be outstanding and responsible as we abide by the above rules. I haven't thought of more so far but if someone has a suggestion to give concerning that, who I'm I to reject? the flaw is open and welcoming to everyone as far as you are not for destruction. And if you have a question concerning what I've said so far, bring it on.

Welcome once again and have a blessed stay...

Ok...so, I got these complaints from readers concerning Authors who don't update frequently and some completely stop updating for long before resuming, while others prolong their stories a lot just so people keep paying to read and all the like.

So, my question is, what do we Authors think about this and what can we really tell them?

For me, I think the only reason readers will visualize that way is that they are not in the Author's shoes. they can't completely understand the obsession some Authors experience thinking about satisfying their readers and killing themselves (I'm talking specifically about updates).

On the other side, readers are right because some of the authors don't try to put in the effort. But I won't say they don't care. They're just lazy. And that drives us to the fact that writing is not easy. You may have the ideas, but to put it down with an interesting and understandable plot is something else which is something no Author wants to joke with because their story developed from there.

It takes all your time and energy for those who are dedicated. Not to forget, some authors are part-time while others are full time. But we could try to make a change or create a solution to that.

I discovered the snowflakes method of writing from a well known best seller writer. It works for me and I believe it will work for those who want to give it a try. I can't completely expatriate it here but if you want to find out more, you could comment below and I'll give you the link. It's more about organizing your plan to a story where each stage has branches and branches until you completely break it down and evolve with a clear analog that helps ease your writing and pours out your story to the fullest. At the end of the day, you'll discover you were given a brief explanation of every scene in your story.

For the second complaint, I will say, yes! Some Authors actually elongate their story to an exaggerated ending just so, they could boost their title or earn more. While, at some point, readers say a lot that they don't know of. Like, they just want to look for every excuse to put down an Author when they tolerate it with another Author.

One thing I will give once more is if I complain a story is too long, means it became boring for me at a point. And that's something we Authors should fully check on. If you feel you reached your limit about something, no matter what don't force it. Just because you saw an Author writing these numbers of episodes or series, doesn't mean you can. We are all different.

Again, readers please understand we Authors are not the same and will never be. There are things you'll receive from an Author which matches your taste but do not expect to find it everywhere or elsewhere.

Hope these answered some request and doubts.

    Hi! Scarlet heart here.....
    I joined Webnovel in Jan 2020. I started writing oct 19 and since Feb 13 but before that I almost finished writing of my 1/4. When I started to upload got very less responce but after 30 or chapters readers started showing their interest by voting and commenting but that phase remained for good few days. Then I asked readers should I stop writing and come back after somedays so that I can fix my novel but got injured and it took me more than a month to get okay. But after healing I started uploading new edited chapters everyday but after editing of and adding new chapters also didn't got single response or commet. I got so disheartened but still tried one more thing that I deleted all the chapters from book and them started reuploading them but no response so I totally dropped the idea of continuing my book "Heavenly blessed" and took part in WPC11.

    We authors are not machines actually...We feel really hurt when we don't get any type of response...No comments no votes....Yes can ignore voting because all readers have there favourite book, so they vote them but this readers can atleast comment...Why they prefer to be silent reader when their authors need them the most...

     I just want to request all readers please comment at least. Now I have dropped my book only because I don't know whether they are liking it or not....Authors take so much effort readers make them happy with just one comment of yours....

    Now I totally don't know if they want to read my book ornot but collection still show 55...Are this 55 people really want to read or not....I still don't know??

    Thank you for this platform so I can creep every now and then.

      I have a life outside of Webnovel. I don't make enough money from this site to sit down and write 8 hours a day. I get burnt out sometimes, and if nobody's reading, then what's the point in me writing?

      I need breaks every so often to either refresh myself or plan out the next few chapters. We're not machines who sit in front of our computers all day and have nothing else to do.

        Scarletheart84 thanks for your contribution and pouring out your feelings. It's not easy. Sometimes along the way, when you try to utter something like this, you feel weak and taken back to a point where you delete whatsoever you wanted to write.

        And that falls back to writing. It's just like straps of emotions we try to mend and pour it out there for readers to see through our world, which along the way, we may feel depressed because no one pays attention to or doesn't help uplift your imaginations/emotions and you find yourself being trapped like you said nothing. Just like the feeling your voice isn't head or people don't want you to speak maybe because they dominate you and all the like.

        Well girl, to conclude, just keep writing. If indeed, you want to say something or let people know your story, you must let it out. They can't make you sit back and keep being depressed. You should let it out and feel relieved even if people don't comment just as you let out your emotions above than sit back with it regretting someday that you could've left it for just one person to see.

        If you didn't explain this above, I or no one could have known what you're going through. Like, I personally face the same thing with my books (four of them and two are complete on this platform) but I just keep writing. Even if it will take me my life for people not to comment, I don't put my feelings to that so much because I know what I am out for. To let my voice (Story either true or not) be heard and that's what we Authors should bare at the back of our minds.

        Some of us didn't study to write novels so, we mustn't let it waste but rather push on because it descended from somewhere and we must let it descent correctly.

        Thanks, Scarlett... I appreciate your words and I know you have a lot to give out. Just don't give up!

            Ghassan_ I just can't thank you enough...Your words really give me lot of strength. I uploaded one chapter of "Heavenly blessed" today, just because of your words.

                    I am feeling really bad knowing that you went through the same. This period really worse.  I don't know why readers do it but whenever I see author  like me I  surely try to comment and give good reviews for them. Try to make sure that they know their best part not the worse because there are thousands of them who tell us where we lack...

            Thanks to you I can continue creeping....Thank you... Continue to good work....So many people are going to come here.....

              Regarding story completion rate. Can only say for myself. I don't earn from my fiction writing even if I wanted to, return on investment for my works is minuscule. It's because I take to the craft like an art form. My concepts aren't mainstream, so my stories struggle to find a fit. Especially at this place.

              Due to my unconventional concepts, I'm accustomed to not having readers or the silent types. So to write is purely for myself, even if I intend to self publish my works with a target audience in mind. It takes a lot sheer will and focus to consistently deliver on a story few a willing to read.

              Time and energy is my main areas for not being able to write regularly. I work a fast pace job (other kinds of writing) that requires all my brain's burners running. I do intend to complete all my stories but at an inconsistent pace. Typically, I'll have to move around my completed story to various places with hopes of attracting readership.

                I guess for readers who complain about hiatus, slow completion or dropped stories. My askew-if answer would be:

                "Creating a fiction story is akin to laboring on a painting, which may take weeks, months or years to complete. Or may take little time at all. Sometimes, the art piece doesn't work out as intended. As the artist we make a call on how we deliver to our vision. Or not at all. Always dear Reader a thank you for taking the time to experience my art work that's my fiction story, for however long or short it was. I hope it brought you a moment of joy. Maybe I'll be able to deliver a completed work in the future for you to savour to the fullest."

                Veronica8, Esq :stuck_out_tongue:

                I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking I've said something weird 🤦‍♂️

                  Veronica8 That's ok dear. Nothing weird was said. Rather you passed out your message to your readers and readers in general. This could relate to other Authors who write fiction as well. So, keep up with your work.

                    Dalton_Reutlinger I completely agree with you.

                    I’ve been noticing a trend recently where readers feel the need to express their enthusiasm by demanding that I â€śmust update quicker” or â€śneed to start releasing chapters already”, and “can’t drop a story”.

                    Personally, I find the above mentioned demands incredibly disrespectful; authors are not content machines. We don’t owe it to anyone to create anything. Furthermore, I have much more going on in my live and often don’t have time to write daily or even weekly. I am a full-time university student and coach children trice a week.

                    I write because of my own desire to practice and improve my English, and the experience is soured whenever readers feel entitled to snap their fingers and demand more content. It’s disrespectful, and in my own personal experience, it repels me from writing.

                    I would love to see everything become more civil. Readers are under no obligation to read or follow my stories, and, in retrospect, I have no obligations to create content either. Certainly since I do it for free. I am pleased to hear when readers take an interest, but I would like them to understand that will never feel obligated to give them more content, no matter how much it is demanded of me.

                    Edit: upon revisiting this comment, it seems like I let my emotions get the better of me. My apologies if it has become too much of a rant. I am very glad, however, that I could share my thoughts on this topic.

                        Hi I started writing here around June. Truth is I only knew about webnovel after being offered a non exclusive contract to write here. The thing is, so far I've completed one book, now writing another . funny is, my book has 12k reads, no comments, no votes and definitely no ranking. Actually, I only have around 3 votes . 2 of which I did a swap review with some friends. Then 1 I decided to vote for myself cuz no one's gonna do it.

                        These 12k views have had me asking myself if they're all ghost readers or, my book's just that bad. Hell not even a nasty comment like, "Your book is trash, " Ironically, I wish that was the case, so I know how someone feels about my book.

                          Sigheti You were able to let out everything and you are free from them. Your happiness and peace of mind are better now. It was a good idea sharing your thoughts

                            Janettejustynne Oh My God!! This got me really... IDK what to say... Like seriously, that's exactly the same thing happening to me! And I'm like "Ok" but the truth is, we do not know if there really are ghost or humans reading books because the way the views increase within a short space of time, I start to wonder if there are automatic views appearing on each author's book every second.

                            I had a comment from a lady on one of my books saying the genre I inputted was to be changed to "Original" since I mistakenly clicked "Fan-fic" which till now I'm unable to change. Still, when I asked her "OK...it was a mistake but what do you think of my book? Did you like it?" she didn't utter a word/ give me a response till now.

                            I will never in her shoes, have gone to the extent of saying that to someone's book and don't leave a review.
                            All these questions are questions that need responses and people haven't given a good one to that. We're still searching for all those hidden readers and why they behave that way. This is more than me...

                                The thing is most of the new authors here won't get enough readers cuz they havent familiarize themselves with the webnovel platform. The niche ones will be ignored and most of the people will always go to the mainstream, no matter how shitty, cliche, bad grammar it is. Even if you had a top notch grammar, good, well-thought out arcs, or characters it wont be noticed (only rarely), thats the sad truth in WN.

                                I've heard of one post, the western style of novels wont work here, people like instant gratification. If your story is about wars that better be appear on chapter 1 or 3 or 5. Or the MC have to be a gary stu. Since WN is supposed to be for light stories and not dramatic. Most popular here are often system, games, and stuff like that.

                                But thats just another way to look at things if you are keen on views and likes, otherwise if u dont mind views and comments, then you can choose to not mind this.

                                  Veronica8 I completely agree with you. We can't give so much of time and energy for writting all the time. Pen down all the emotions is not at easy task...It is time, energy consuming process. If we will tell this to readers they asks us then how others are consistent in their writing...You don't upload daily that's why your book don't have many readers. This I got to know from author from other site and I am angree with it somehow. If you will give consistent uploads then maybe your book will one day do good. Don't mind with quality work keep in mind the quantity of work...Always quantity will win.

                                  But dear readers do you understand every author is not same, some can write fast and some takes time... Every author doesn't get paid,they can't say or ask family or other work to wait, many of us have to go through many task daily...It really get impossible when you are working out and handling the house chores too.

                                  And most importantly the thing called writer's block...Which happens with me many times...Sometimes I write two- three chapters on time and sometimes not a single line come out of my brain...
                                  Just like any other human authors also get problems so, if possible sometimes you as a reader needs to understand and should give this little courage to author by saying I will wait...or get well soon...I am eagerly waiting for what happens next...you get better and then write...

                                  Well I just hope one day Comments will come for my book from readers...lolzzz

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