Alpha_Medic I guess this story is the first of it's kind to show what BDSM relationship is like. That's why people love it. But, the one who actually hate the series is people who know what BDSM supposed to be like.

These people is a professional BDSM master(I don't remember the title of their work, but it does exist) . Everything about BDSM is about consent and safety while trying your best to satisfy both the dom and the sub.

Fifty shed of gray had give an insight to many people about what is BDSM, to show that this relationship exist, but yeah, people who hate it are all the one who know What BDSM is actually like better than the author.

      Alpha_Medic True!! People who take BDSM seriously think this kind of movie is offensive. BDSM is not rape, yet the movie depicted of the relationship as so. BDSM is the relationship of consent of both the dom and sub! They sub need to trust their dom, and the dom need to make sure their sub is not injured!
      d(>_･ )

        I write romance with a certain amount of smut so guess I too am the 'enemy' here haha, but can I just say: thank you for pointing out the innocent virgin bullshit.
        I just don't get it. The hell is wrong with liking a tumble between the sheets? This is 2020, your FL won't be thought of as a hoe just because she isn't dead afraid of genitals. 🙄

          Hmm interesting thread. I think a lot of romances lose appeal to me when they stop making logical sense. Stories were 100 girls just all love one guy for no reason (or some weak reason), and he just chooses between them are lame. To me, the fun is in seeing how and why two people fall for each other.

          Show me two people that don’t know each other well that meet or get to know each other better in a semi logical way to build a relationship to call it romance. There has to be struggles to make it interesting, like any story, but lately romances I’ve seen have been too much of everyone magically falling for one guy.

          If you are reading romance, there is a strong chance you want to feel something. That feeling is what the story is about. Build up a relationship, then have it crumble, only to be built back up again. Make me experience the ups and downs with the characters. Don’t just keep throwing different cute girls at me because there is no plot. Heck, have there be build up between two or three logical options and make me regret that the MC can’t be with more than one. Stuff like that is part of life.

            How about a sexy romance where 100 girls lined up coz the guy has a big thingy....and these girls fight over him? Is that covered here? And the guy has a superfluid weapon?

              well, not gonna lie, i read all of jiong jiong you yao's novel and she's not exactly very good at starting novels but before reading i am prepared thqt they were gonna be bizzare.

              but when you just read something with an oh-so-interesting synopsis but the content is just blargh, it ticks me off.

              i think qidian itself has a lot of really good romance novels, and webnovel translated some of them but unfortunately, they are dropped. you see, not a lot of people would pay for a logical novel so let's just get stuck here.

                ags2020b Nah... That's also our enemy here... Harem is good, when all the characters, and I mean all of it got the highlight they deserve.
                Writing a novel where the men have a massive harem is hard because the novel tends to become boring quickly.
                -The sex scene becomes repetitive as there are too many women.
                -we tend to forget who is this certain woman as there are too many characters.
                -the only highlight the women get is when they are having sex.
                -most harem has gloomy or maybe not so great protagonist, the only great thing he might have is his dick, big lust, and his cheat. Everything else suck.

                    shadowdrake27 True!!!! We want a harem with a plot!! Break the stereotype of the harem stories!!!
                    -don't make the Protagonist gloomy and dense!! Make him smart and cool!!
                    -don't make him a pervert and a jerk!! make him the kindest person but still a sadist but caring at the same time!!! that's hot!!!!
                    -make him respect others don't treat other people as his enemy all the time!!!
                    - I don't want every girl he meets to become one of his harems!! At least make some of them not interested in him at all!! Create a lot of diversity and balance!!!
                    -don't make him the only one with a harem and cheats, make someone else has harems too!!! Not as an enemy, but as an ally!!!! That way, the protagonist will have friends to talk about their same interests.

                        SrtaA or they were both drugged, slept with each other, both no recollection of the night, woman pregnant, raises child on her own

                        Variation: child somehow gets raised by the father, mother thinks child was a death born or miscarriage...

                        And even without child they often just fall in love. A girl from the childhood, someone they saw once in the past and ever since liked them or even just someone they saw once outside their office window etc you name it

                          SrtaA oh yeah and somehow it's always the supposedly strong female lead that has to endure without a way out. Yes people in love may act stupid sometimes and endure even if they could escape but then don't describe it as if she can't escape. If you write she can't escape she's not strong.

                          So as nearly always the synopsis in the book is wrong. Often there are "snippets" from the book that sound amazing but you'll never read them in the actual novel? Wth! So I rarely read them anymore

                              Alpha_Medic actually I never read this because I usually don't like to do/read/ etc things that are hyped. And most of the time those things aren't you know the real deal. Just what I'm thinking

                                123removed yeah! And isn't is fun to have a confident woman who also may tease you? I mean I'm not a man but as a woman I like to read more about those strong woman who can keep their men in check (in a balanced way of giving and taking hope you get what I mean).

                                Question to you men out there: do you really prefer a shy innocent girl or a woman who knows what she want and how to get it? I mean both have their charms but would you be satisfied with the forever pure girl?

                                    shadowdrake27 oh my goodness yes the hindrances and arguments have gone missing nowadays it's just peace, joy and pancakes (Friede, Freude, Eierkuchen) how we Germans would say. Nothing to build and strengthen your relationship.

                                    And also endless indulgent and pampering without stop... No wonder the girls go insane and do stupid things if no one ever stops them 🙄

                                        Reinesse

                                        Yeah but the thing is the synopsis is wrong most of the time. I noticed that (for the books I read) most of the time the snippet from the synopsis is nowhere found inside the novel. So what if the snippet is the reason I'm reading the novel? It feels like fraud in broad daylight

                                          Web Novel Novel Ask