Carciphones_02 I only read the comic, not the novel, and I was so fed up by Chapter 20 that I dropped it. Part of the reason is because I didn't like it much, the characters were so unlikeable and the absurdity was over the top. I guess the only interesting thing about it was her son? I was hoping to see her get reunited with her son, so I read until Chapter 20...only for her to screw up, get caught by the male lead and get imprisoned. After that, I just dropped it. Too much drama for drama's sake, and there was nothing interesting about it at all (except for the son, I guess).

Honestly, if the story had been about a bumbling assassin who screws up (as comedy), I think it would have been far more interesting to see her try to overcome the obstacles and try to succeed. But no, it portrays her as a supposedly top notch assassin...only for her to get defeated by non-assassins who have no business knowing how to fight. Why make the male lead a CEO? He's better off as an underground secret society leader. The maids were a funny touch, though...but pretty cliche (clearly ripped off some Japanese anime). Also, if the story is about an assassin who sucks at disguising but somehow bumbles her way through by luck (just like Ciaphas Cain), I think it would have been amazing. But it made the mistake of pretending the main character is some top notch assassin even though every single person (especially the male lead) can see through her disguise within like 2 chapters of her pretending to be his driver. And he decides to go along with it. What the hell?

      Tomoyuki Dayum... How can someone can love this type of story...
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      Assassin supposed to be cool!! And strong!! Even if that assassin is an idiot!! At least make her strong!! That's the point of a trained assassins!! They supposed to be strong!!!
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      That's the point of their existence!!! And I thought the ML raped her?? Why would she want the son .. let the ML take care of it!!!
      Even if she love the baby... At Least be smart about it!!! How can even a lowly maid can defeat her!!!!

          Carciphones_02 And I thought the ML raped her?

          Yes, he did, in the most absurd fashion possible. It's as you say in your second post.

          Carciphones_02 -they always met first by sexual encounter.

          An excuse to get her pregnant and tie the male lead to her (apparently nothing ties a man to a woman more than them having a child - he has to take responsibility eventually through marriage, and it's "romantic"). Also, I don't understand why the female main characters always end up falling for the idiots who raped them. So it's basically okay to be raped as long as the other party is rich and handsome? What utter BS. If this is reality, the guy would be sued and imprisoned.

          You know, I think it's more romantic if you actually have a guy who doesn't care who the father of the main character's child is and is willing to take care of him/her as if he/she's his own child, and treasure the main character even if she's no longer a virgin. A guy who would stand by the female main character no matter what and helps her heal from the trauma of being raped. Like the Japanese manga Bitter Virgin, for example. The whole idea that a woman must be "pure" in order to have true love with the man of their dreams and should give her virginity only to one man (the male lead) is unrealistic and absurd.

                Tomoyuki

                I absolutely loathe the plots gravitating towards pregnancy because of this repetitive pattern! So, a couple is meant to be together because a child is involved...

                Variations:
                - The guy wishes a spouse to be a nanny of his offspring, one he can screw with legally. Somehow, it's romantic...
                - The guy (who happens to be not gay, is handsome, filthy rich and godly-smart, and on top of it, is narcissistic) for unrealistic reasons, needs to rent a belly to bear his heir. And it happens to be the most clueless woman he finds. Somehow, it sounds natural...
                - Lady gets pregnant after an awful one-night-stand and now the couple decides they will make it work. The plot develops with the guy clearly showing he thinks the woman is a cheap aquarium keeping his rare fish. Somehow, it's not disrespectful.
                - Poor woman seduces a man to help her raise her 'little bun'. Somehow, it's not sketchy.

                Like... I have a lot of words to express my loathe to these plotlines, but I realize none of them are kind to authors or readers.

                    SrtaA True!! Because, it's the author's baby, blood, sweat and tears After all... So, it's not kind for us to cyber bullying them. That's why I create this thread to diss the cliche plot and some twisted Idea some author has.

                    Well.. i admit, maybe some plot I write could have some sensitive content and it hurts us when someone hate us for it. Well, someone do deserve it, but some don't.

                    Some romance novel is just too stupid.. I have read this kind of story a lot, but the one I like the most is when the man respect the woman, and the woman is smart and can stand up for herself!!!

                    I don't remember this novel, but, it literally have anything I wish for a romance novel. It's about a woman who died(she has an ability, people in her former world especially her family call her lucky koi because she is really lucky and can make other people lucky too even just by touching her for a second.)

                    She died,but her ability still remain. She was reborn in another world as a villainess from a book . This Villainess has a son, apparently from accidentally had sex with a man who the Villainess thought as the male lead, a ceo of abig company apparently. But, it turns out it was a movie king. The most popular actor. The actor didn't know that the chind is his son, but he like the child and the woman anyway. He never treat the woman badly.
                    It's a comedy, but there is also a little bit of tragedy. Just a little though.

                        SrtaA Added with this clasic lyrics from a song...
                        "And you only love her when you let her go~"
                        But she fuckin tryna to run away, but being brought back by MC.

                        Or maybe, she come back in the most pathetic ways possible.

                          I... I feel like you've described "50 Shades Of Gray" to a T. IIRC, doesn't he actually rape her by not honoring the safe word, at one point in the series? Why is that so popular? I am seriously confused, so I'd like if someone could explain to me from a fan's perspective.

                            Alpha_Medic I guess this story is the first of it's kind to show what BDSM relationship is like. That's why people love it. But, the one who actually hate the series is people who know what BDSM supposed to be like.

                            These people is a professional BDSM master(I don't remember the title of their work, but it does exist) . Everything about BDSM is about consent and safety while trying your best to satisfy both the dom and the sub.

                            Fifty shed of gray had give an insight to many people about what is BDSM, to show that this relationship exist, but yeah, people who hate it are all the one who know What BDSM is actually like better than the author.

                                Alpha_Medic True!! People who take BDSM seriously think this kind of movie is offensive. BDSM is not rape, yet the movie depicted of the relationship as so. BDSM is the relationship of consent of both the dom and sub! They sub need to trust their dom, and the dom need to make sure their sub is not injured!
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                                  I write romance with a certain amount of smut so guess I too am the 'enemy' here haha, but can I just say: thank you for pointing out the innocent virgin bullshit.
                                  I just don't get it. The hell is wrong with liking a tumble between the sheets? This is 2020, your FL won't be thought of as a hoe just because she isn't dead afraid of genitals. 🙄

                                    Hmm interesting thread. I think a lot of romances lose appeal to me when they stop making logical sense. Stories were 100 girls just all love one guy for no reason (or some weak reason), and he just chooses between them are lame. To me, the fun is in seeing how and why two people fall for each other.

                                    Show me two people that don’t know each other well that meet or get to know each other better in a semi logical way to build a relationship to call it romance. There has to be struggles to make it interesting, like any story, but lately romances I’ve seen have been too much of everyone magically falling for one guy.

                                    If you are reading romance, there is a strong chance you want to feel something. That feeling is what the story is about. Build up a relationship, then have it crumble, only to be built back up again. Make me experience the ups and downs with the characters. Don’t just keep throwing different cute girls at me because there is no plot. Heck, have there be build up between two or three logical options and make me regret that the MC can’t be with more than one. Stuff like that is part of life.

                                      How about a sexy romance where 100 girls lined up coz the guy has a big thingy....and these girls fight over him? Is that covered here? And the guy has a superfluid weapon?

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