val_the_mysterious thank you for sharing your experience and insight😁 I especially loved that you got a friend to help with the editing and flow of your writing. It is a wise decision to have someone to bounce content concepts/layouts/etc.. ideas off of.

I wish you luck in your writing!☮️❤️😁

8 days later

Sara, my did I push your buttons! I'm not morally grandstanding. There are some wonderful writers on We novel, some should be receiving hefty amounts for their stories! I merely stated how I felt about certain stories. There were others complaining as well about smut and making that individual feel downright low. One even asked to have her comment deleted. In fact, I think you even requested someone delete someone's comment. This isn't a dictatorship where your opinions are above others! Everyone has the right to state how they feel. I will apologize to those that I offended regarding not writing sex scenes if they're embarrassed. Evidently I need to clarify my statement to them. If you feel a certain type of way, leave it until you feel comfortable enough to write it.
As for your opinion regarding me being narrow minded and bigoted, I could care less. You don't feed or care for me. I could care even lesser about the spelling of your name since it sounds the same. You seem very petty regarding other's opinions but want your own to be accepted without criticism. Welcome to the real world! Not everyone will agree with you either. As far as LGBTQ to each his own! I specified what I liked not what Sara assumed! Remember what the breakdown of the word assume means, please.

    GWEN Thank you for apologizing😁

    The rest is just pompous yammering, but thank you for admitting your fault. I understand how difficult that must’ve been for someone like you.☮️😁

    • GWEN replied to this.

      I personally just write Sex Novels just for a cathartic outcome and to be honest, my novel didn't see sex as an outcome of love LOL. Thats why I use sex for the source of magic in my book, cos I wanna, period.
      My novel specifically written for adult, and perhaps would never get any publisher to even want to publish it, because its so degenerate LMAO.

      I specifically spread this book in lewd 18+ servers cos of that.

      My writing is so hentai.

      About how I write the scene, I usually very descriptive since I grew in RP-writing environment, and thats why its very descriptive. But sometimes I also write sex from sensation.
      Depends on the mood. But for this book, mainly descriptive, cos you know, I need release
      LOL

      sorry from a pervert with a degenerate mind

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        I can't agree more with the author of this post.
        Sex is not pornography, and vice versa.

        There are also a number of ways to NOT describe sex if you don't feel comfortable with it. That's what I used to do beforehand, like a brush painting a few lines, and keeping the rest in the dark. The reader's imagination can sometimes fill in those blanks rather easily.

        It can be a simple: 'This night, Tristan and Isolde danced to the melody of their intertwined bodies, reaching that blissful oblivion that only lovers knew'
        If you described the kisses beforehand, and the connection of touching skin, the depth of their feelings, that can be enough.

        More detailed, but still without any technicalities:
        "Her delicate hands traced the scars of his back as she clung to him, her plush, creamy thighs welcomed him as he settled in their embrace. And he found solace in her depth as he made love to her, relishing in the caresses of a woman for the first time in years until he abandoned all sense. Tristan nearly wept as he buried himself deep inside her welcoming body, relief, pleasure, heartache and love mingling in his chest."

        Now that I feel more comfortable about it, I'd put a little more details. But some words will automatically shift your scene to something much more vulgar. There are so many words to describe a man's appendage, for example. 'Cock' is a no no !
        If you want it sweet, you don't even have to describe it. You can call it solid desire for all you care, you're the author. Any image is welcome.

        I adore love scenes. I hate smut scenes. If there's no emotionnal connection, I feel like I'm surfing on a pornographic website. What's the point ?

        Anyway. Since I write mainly romance, I've got more or less detailed scenes, depending on the context, the mood, the depth of the story. But no vulgarity. This is love !
        And if we want our youngsters to learn how to treat a partner properly, they should definitely read more love scenes :)

          I’ve also read romance novels since I was 12 or so, starting with the Harlequin bodice ripper type romances. At the time these were pretty mild, I’d say PG-13 or so although I understand Harlequin has a new imprint these days that is essentially X-rated/erotica.

          Theres essentially 4 different ways you can approach this issue:

          1. Do not have romance in your novel. This is the choice I made in the two stories I am writing right now.
          2. Fade to black prior to any serious sex scenes.
          3. Try to write the sex scenes but remain classy about it (this is the hardest to accomplish, I think.)
          4. Lean into the sex scenes but at that point you’re just writing erotica — fine, I guess, but don’t kid yourself.

          Writing sex scenes is hard for me, even though I am rather experienced in that area myself in reality. I’m not sure why, the closest I can think of is that if I didn’t hold back there would be whips and chains and stuff that is a bit over the top but me holding back seems stilted. Heh.

          Good post.

            d_elfe thank you very much😁 I especially loved your opinion on:

            d_elfe And if we want our youngsters to learn how to treat a partner properly, they should definitely read more love scenes :)

            Thank you for sharing☮️❤️😁

              @Sara_Wilcox hello Sara, I apologise for this sudden burst, but I would like to know your, and anyone else who would like to read's opinion, of course if you don't mind, on the sex scenes I included in this book. I'm thinking about stopping at the second one, and shift the pace to be more action oriented, and focused on the eventual plot, but I would like to know what you think.

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                  Sara_Wilcox once we have children, we start thinking differently I guess.
                  Mine are boys, I want them to be warned against this horrible rape culture that still thrives around the world, and learn how sex can be beautiful between people that respect each other.
                  I guess you can relate :)

                    d_elfe yes I can❤️ I also have a son, but he’s still a toddler. The second he starts having romantic interests, I plan on having a nice, Long discussion about what it means to say ‘I love you’, being a good companion, being safe, what a toxic relationship is, etc.. I want to raise a good man, not a man-child😂🥰
                    Your boys are lucky to have you☮️❤️😁

                      d_elfe and your book Tristan and Isolde describe the love and sex scene really well!

                      Thank you to Sara_Wilcox who give a good helpful opinion on how to write sex scenes in a novel. I believe it's pretty hard for some people to write it nicely in respectful and elegants ways instead of being vulgar and porn.

                      I write my sex scene in a prose metaphoric ways - as I really don't know how to write it in a romantic way :D :D

                        Wulin_Jianghu that’s cool; it’s just your style/the way you write your character(s). 😁 No writer is the same, and the world is made all the more amazing because of it. This thread is just in case people wanted tips, resources, etc.. I wish you luck on your future endeavors☮️❤️😁

                          Wulin_Jianghu Thank you, really, for your praise. It means a lot to me. And your poems were pretty romantic as well. I had never seen sex written this way, but I loved it!

                          Sara_Wilcox Thanks ! We do the best we can, as mothers I guess :)

                          Sara_Wilcox Actually I'm learning. These days I added your novel and started to read it to learn how. Not sure if I could learn it, but...let's see :D
                          And good luck with your novel too!

                            Thank you so much for this. I recently wrote my first love scene and it took everything out of me!😂
                            I found I had to get descriptive to the point where I was like😳😳😳

                            Sex scenes, fight scenes... It's not easy to be an Author.😥

                              SpilledInk no problem and happy to help😁 I totally understand. I have quite a few intimate scenes(both kinds), and fight scenes in my first book, so I completely get how 😧😳 it can be before/during/after writing those kinds of scenes. Your worst critic is usually yourself. I wish you luck on your writing! Keep Typing☮️❤️😁

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                                  5 days later

                                  I don't know what is so bad about it. It is usually so poorly done I just skip it.

                                  I have learned that according to the authors the female breasts are the best indicators of a woman's feelings.
                                  Embarassed they thrust out
                                  Excited they point
                                  Shocked they quiver
                                  Mad they get additional support
                                  Happy they giggle
                                  Sad they sag
                                  Bored they are forgotten
                                  Provoked they Undulate

                                  So now you have a reason to stare at a girl's chest. You're just trying to understanding of their feelings.

                                    I don't know what is so bad about it. It is usually so poorly done I just skip it.

                                    I have learned that according to the authors the female breasts are the best indicators of a woman's feelings.
                                    Embarassed they thrust out
                                    Excited they point
                                    Shocked they quiver
                                    Mad they get additional support
                                    Happy they giggle
                                    Sad they sag
                                    Bored they are forgotten
                                    Provoked they Undulate

                                    So now you have a reason to stare at a girl's chest. You're just trying to understanding of their feelings.

                                      TianLei
                                      For some reason these are what mangas taught you, but being owner of a pair of these, I swear they communicate as much as male ones.

                                      I might have a strange opinion about writing sex in books. My husband helps me write and I think it's easier to write sex with another person.

                                      You act as one character and they are the other.

                                      My issue writing is when do I need a sex scene? When is the sex scene appropriate in the story? As of now, I want to add sex in my book but I keep thinking, it's too soon.

                                        Givean_HooH Excellent Suggestion❤️ Thank you for the wonderful opinion!

                                        And this is just a personal opinion about your issue:
                                        From what I’ve seen on Webnovel; unless the intimacy of the characters’ relationship is pivotal to the story plot, I would bide my time for writing the actual act. Or, you could even tease at it. Start to write it, then another character interrupts them.

                                        Interjecting some other types of intimate acts(making out, foreplay, etc..), to build up to the scene is also a good option if you’re not quite sure if you want it yet or not. These of course, are just suggestions. I wish you luck in your writing
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                                          After reading 50 Shades of Gray, my opinion on this change. This book has vulgarized everything that is possible and now I do not even want to perceive such novels as art. To read better Emmanuel

                                          Givean_HooH If it moves the story along then it’s a good time to add it. I feel like that’s the pivotal part of sex in a story, it’s the next step in a relationship, the necessary component in a ritual, sex is an integral part of who your character is.
                                          If you read through a scene and it’s enhanced with sex then put it in. If the scene can exist without sex then don’t add it.
                                          For me, at least, it’s part instinct and part story flow.

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                                                  Sara_Wilcox You must be hallucinating! I didn't apologize! For what and to what? Your opinion means nothing to me Sara. You are just one person on this entire forum. Please, get a life! If you need someone to apologize to you go and pay someone to do it.

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