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Brass_Badger

The author can grow, I agree and have said this. But, they're all growing in the same direction. Combined with so many other factors, the majority of novels are becoming worse and worse. Look at all the new novels.

I get certain people like certain things. What I say is trash you might like. I've read novels other called trash and liked it, but at the end of the day I myself know it's still trash.

In all honesty, authors can do what they do they just need to change like 2 things: Little to no stupidity and no freaking annoying harem. Literally, if a novel has that it has surpassed most novels. But I guess stupidity makes money and that's all that matters to them.

It's annoying seeing how authors just focus on money than actually writing a decent story. At this point, i don't even consider you an author.

Sythcake
Im sorry but I laughed
The struggle is real on this forum XD

Yeah, School Days was awful. No objections there.

Misguided_Rooster

Heres the thing, if the so called 'trash' is popular, then clearly alot of people are reading it.
There's a demand so can you really blame the author for supplying the 'trash' that people love to read? Just saying...

If you wrote what you wanted and no one read it, or you made no money, would you even continue to write?

Im pretty sure no one wants to write 'trash', but if that's what people want, then they will.

From what I see, until general preferences change you'll continue to have all sorts of 'trash' recommended to you.

EternalNightLotus Already wrote that in another reply.
Also, no, I don't write for money.

Misguided_Rooster
Neither do I, but I can't speak for everyone. I write for fun, but other people have their own $$$ expectations

Misguided_Rooster If you hate it so much then why read it?
There is an entire FL section on webnovel filled with one on one romance. Webnovel has a good enough tag feature that most books follow. If you don't want harem just read a novel with no #harem tag

Misguided_Rooster When I was beginning to write novels, I too was against harem novels as well.
My book had a tag #no-harem, lol...
But what happened afterwords was that many readers complaining in the comments sections spouting hate and saying that an MC that the story is stupid because its not harem. To them it was illogical for a cultivation setting to not have a harem.
So yeah, there you have it. It's the law of supply and demand. Honestly, authors would write anything as long as there is demand for it amongst the audience. If there is no demand for a non harem book then an author would probably not write.
And its not really about MONEY. It's simply that being an author you don't want to write a book that on one will read.
So, technically at the end of the day it's the audience's fault not the authors.
If at some point of time, non-harem novels become popular amongst the audience unlike these days. Then I am sure authors would focus more on those kinds of stories.

Shiny_Shirogane But what happened afterwords was that many readers complaining in the comments sections spouting hate and saying that an MC that the story is stupid because its not harem. To them it was illogical for a cultivation setting to not have a harem.

Honestly, you should ignore them. It's your story, not theirs. If they don't like a non-harem cultivation story, they can go read a harem cultivation story somewhere else. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of harem cultivation stories out there, why the f are they not reading those? Why force a non-harem story to become a harem story that it's not?

Carve out your niche, be the story that stands out from the others by being different. If they want harem, introduce them to the hundreds of harem stories out there, but they have no right and no business telling you how to write your story.

Shiny_Shirogane

You got pressured into writing something you didn't want to. Your reader base is disgusting, and you have no backbone. Writing, to translated authors and a lot of 'originals', is 100% about money.

As an author, write what you want to write. No one can stop you. But, you should always understand - Certain things will make your novel trash.

I'm only bringing up one or two things right now. I won't even go into depths the sheer amount of problems both original and translated have. Why is that? Exactly because of what you just said.

Readers want this, authors give, it's a buisness. And, a pretty bad one at that.

All I'm saying is, write to write, not for money. Because this will 100% make your book... Biased? Bland? Stupid? Too many things.

If you've read on here for a while you should have a general idea of what I mean. Just a bit of research will also help.

lol, I'll stop here, I don't want to make this more of a rant.

Tomoyuki Exactly. Exactly.

Don't let toxic readers influence you. These are the type of people with the IQ of a baby cockroach. Don't let them infest your house because you let them in.

EternalNightLotus

I understand that perfectly, but there are a lot of problems with this here. Money will turn a 500 chapter novel into 4 thousand.

I just want people to understand the various factors that ruin many novels, the leading cause being money and something else.

If you want money, go ahead and make money. Just know, if you let it influence your book too much, well..

Misguided_Rooster So, the problem is not the harem, but situation and condition has make it into trash for the people that dislike harem?

I'm bored. What's your favorite color? You said Green? Fuck green

I actually never understood the concept of harem, neither have I sticked around to read any. And neither have I written any, I don't give a damn what others say about my book. It's mine and mine alone

GegeSadewa I don't know if what I wrote is confusing, my bad. But, the problem is both the harem and how it came about.

Misguided_Rooster Well, I still think the problem is how it came about. Because eventhough I like harem, there are still alot of harem story I did not like because of how bad the harem is.

GegeSadewa

Well, in the end it's just a lot of isms that create harem.

Simply put .. Most harems like 95% are trash .. and you know it .. the last 5% is an exception... And I've read many novels where there's no harem tag. Instead there's romance tag then I expect to see a good Romance story but no even there ... And another thing is that .. the majority of harem today is really trash no matter how much you refuse .. I mean every girl in a harem story falls in love with that stupid mc cuz of some stupid ass reason and all the girls talk about SHARING a single boy ...

Kirisuna1
Yep, novels are ruined by harems. Just sexism, wish fullfilment and greed. If only western authors made their books longer, I would read more of those instead.

I have yet to not get a skeezy vibe from harem novels. Definitely wish fulfillment and fan service. That's one of the aspects of the Wheel of Time series that I absolutely hated...

GegeSadewa
No, it's just there are a lot of good ones without harem. Unlike chinese or jap where the majoirty pretty much have it.

Misguided_Rooster I agree with you thou even my novel has harem in it but I don't take harem that way, I just want to show how many people admire the FL and yeah my novel doesn't have any 16 or 18+ scene

Trash to some is masterpiece to others.
It's not like authors don't understand what they're writing, it's because they do that they write them. It is the way they make a living. Would you gamble and write something that might or might not hit or would you write something you're sure about? In the end, it is all business.

SlaveOfTheLord
yep, ik, I said that in other posts. which is why I made this post.

if every harem novel you read is trash novel then that means you are either
A:close minded
B:you read only trash novels they were trash and you blamed it on harem
solution read some good novels

Misguided_Rooster can't it just be there for comedy tho?
Example: Mc being a hothead who goes around copping feels and no one bothers him about it. Most he gets is getting knocked unconscious Every time he squeezes a chicks ass… then plot armor makes all those girls fall for him

webtalewriter now that's a great comparison
You really can't say somethings trash because you don't like it lol
Good point man

Limpin_Technocat

what...? How the heck is that comedy?

Grish99
Wrong an wrong. They're trash becuase they're trash.

Misguided_Rooster come on lighten up
Man just gets a harem from copping feels
Like how Meliodas does with Elizabeth (Seven deadly sins reference)

I feel OP is having "personal issues" and just trolling for attention as a result. Don't feed the underage trolls, it's not good for their health

YulongYuXianTaiyin Dont you dare! Don't you ever dare! I am trying to control myself right now. I was eating and laughing at these post but...Dont you dare shake this table.
Over 99% of the books in webnovel are tailor made for you so better * * and go and read.
We have few decent plots, don't carry your s** over here.
No offence.

Jus7aguy

Yes, you're an idiot. No need to say it so loudly man.

Dark_Scholars How do you know what's tailor-made for me? You don't. Harem isn't my taste at all. CCG would've been an exception. You should know that there are exceptions to most things. And 'don't you dare' what? Makes no sense. I suggest you think before you act/talk, else you you will easily make enemies for being a D, which you are.

TheZombieAuthor this entire thread was literally supposed to end at this, lmao. Peeps got too much time.

Your opinions and feelings matter as much as the person standing next to you. Chill out, bruhs.